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Enviro Omega Questions

Post in 'The Pellet Mill - Pellet and Multifuel Stoves' started by deadeye316, Jan 9, 2008.

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  1. deadeye316

    deadeye316 New Member

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    Im in a bit of a panic. I had my Enviro Omega installed today. The install went good. I have a 2 month old baby and just want to do whats best. We wanted to be more comfortable so we bought a pellet stove. Right now I have it on 2. The highest is 5 lowest is 1. I need to know my options. Right now it is 85 in the room where the stove is. If things dont work out with getting used to this stove. What options do i have with the stove. I have a hole in my wall and a 3 thousand dollar pellet stove. If I were to ask the dealer to take it back because I may of made a mistake. What do you think they would give me for the stove and what would i be looking into for fixing the hole in my wall and siding. Im not saying im going to do it I just want to know my options. I know I need to get used to it but just want alittle peace of mind.

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  2. davevassar

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    Keep in mind that it's unseasonably warm these past few days. I say turn ot off.
  3. Trying To Keep Warm

    Trying To Keep Warm New Member

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    I'm not familiar with your stove but is this your problem -- is it way too warm in the room with the stove and the rest of the house is too cool? Others will comment but it sounds like you need to move the air out with a fan set up.
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    bret4 New Member

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    Just checked the weather for where you live and it says it's 51F out right now. Wait for it to get cold out or open a window if you just want to test it out.
  5. MainePellethead

    MainePellethead Minister of Fire

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    I'm not real experienced....just had mine installed today too. But i have been reading these posts for months...and see alot of good advice. One is the air flow....once you get an airflow going with a fan...it gets better. But also I had mine cranked up today to get the new stove smell burnt off etc....I have since backed it down a bit and put it on low....the house seems to be evening out. But one would think that the room the stove is in will be a lil bit higher in temp. Thats just my thoughts.....enjoy the heat! You'll love it on the real cold days!
  6. Xena

    Xena Minister of Fire

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    Definitely was unseasonably warm today here in Southeastern MA,
    and from a glance of your neck of the woods it looks like temps
    were mild as well. Stove was off here and my house held at 70F.

    You will need a few weeks at least to learn your stove so don't panic.
    Read the manual, ask questions here, (Rod knows those so you are
    in good hands with him).

    If it's suppose to go down into the 30's tonight I'd leave the stove
    on but cut it down to #1. You can always turn her up from there
    if it starts getting colder outside and inside. Oh, and even a small
    fan pointed into the room the stove is in will help to force the warm
    air into the other rooms more evenly.

    Congrats on that bad boy!
  7. deadeye316

    deadeye316 New Member

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    im prob just overacting. I just wanted to do right and i guess im just worried. Maybe I need to get a thermostat. That way I wont be so worried. Maybe set it for 75 or something. Plus it is warm outside. Just need to calm down and have a beer.
  8. Dougsey

    Dougsey Feeling the Heat

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    I would add the t-stat, then you won't have to worry about the baby overheating. Nor will you have to constantly fiddle with the stove to get the right temp as the weather changes.

    But have the beer just the same.
  9. hearthtools

    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    BINGO
    Thermostat!
    we talked about this
    if you put a thermostat on the stove and set it on 3 and put the stat in ON and OFF mode (I will only ON and OFF mode with the OMEGA) the stove will go into LOW MODE for 30 minutes then if the stat did not call for heat in that 30 minutes the stove will go in shut down mode and shut off.

    When your stats calls for heat when it cools down it the stove will light up and run in the Mediam setting.

    See my other post about how I use my stove.
  10. deadeye316

    deadeye316 New Member

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    The installers really didnt supply much info on the stove. First one they installed that was a omega. They told me not to touch the feed trim because they would have to come back to program it. So that made me afraid of installing a thermostat. Also if its on a thermostat i was worried about the air trim.
  11. hearthtools

    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    It is NOT rocket science

    The feed trim I agree not to F with
    I never set feed trims and they are just for the low feed rate anyway.

    If they got the air set you are good
    Run it high low 1 , 2 , 3 or what ever you want.

    A stat is just going to shut the stove down and turn it back on again
    But it does go into a "Lets wait and see" mode for 30 minutes before shut down.
  12. deadeye316

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    They opened the air all the way and told me to test different settings. They told me if you have it on low pull the trim out a inch. If you have it on medium put it to half. If you have it on high open it all the way. So right now i have it on 1 out of 5 and the air trim out alittle and the flame is kind of low
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    The installer left and the air trim was wide open because it needed to run on 5 out of 5 for an hour to burn out the oils. I turn the stove off after the smoke cleared. Now my problem is IM A NEWB.
    questions
    1. I have it on low and the flame is very low. I put the air trim down and down but its still very low.

    2. With the maintance they said just clean the heat exchange, burn pot, window.

    3. In order to get the flame going should i clean the burn pot and remove unburnt pellets and get it going again.

    4.. Also how long should i give the stove to get a good flame after adjusting the air trim
  14. hearthtools

    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    What clowns!!!!
    Did they even read the service or operation manual

    The control board sets the Combustion blower speed with each feed rate setting
    so once you get the Air rod adjusted you don't need to touch it
    unless you change type of pellets and as you stove gets dirtier you may have to pull the air out more.

    Did they leave you the Owners manual and Service manual?
    If not you can get it at www.enviro.com

    This is cut right from the OWNERS MANUAL not the tech manual

    THE SLIDER / DAMPER MUST BE SET AT TIME OF INSTALLATION. A Qualified Service Technician or Installer must set the Slider Damper.
    If the fire should happen to go out and the heat output indicator has been set on the lowest setting, the Slider Damper should be pushed in slightly, decreasing the air in the firebox.
    If, after long periods of burning, the fire builds up and overflows the burn pot or there is a build up of clinkers, this would be a sign that the fuel quality is poor, this requires more primary air, the slider damper must be pulled out to compensate. Pulling the slider damper out gives the fire more air.
    The easiest way to make sure that an efficient flame is achieved is to understand the characteristics of the
    the fire.

    • A tall, lazy flame with dark orange tips requires more air – Open slider (pull out) slightly.
    • A short, brisk flame, like a blowtorch, has too much air – Close slider (push in) slightly.
    • If the flame is in the middle of these two characteristics with a bright yellow/orange, active flame with no black tips then the air is set for proper operation, refer to Figure 7.

    The combustion exhaust blower is a variable speed blower controlled by the heat output button. This blower will decrease the vacuum pressure inside the stove, adjusting the air to fuel ratio.
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    deadeye316 New Member

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    So should i keep fiddling with the damper or should i call them back. And when it is fixed do i just leave it at that set rate. The thing is next week they are installing by dads next wensday. Also should I turn it off in the mean time.
  16. hearthtools

    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    this is from a the technical manual
    <snip from manual>
    IMPORTANT: Taking a reading of vacuum pressure inside the firebox with a magnehelic gauge should be used to set the slider for best combustion.
    The slider damper should be set only on a hot stove (operating for thirty (30) minutes or more) by using a Magnahelic Pressure Gauge to measuring the pressure in the firebox.
    The best settings are a reading of approximately 0.12 - 0.15 inches of water column (29.9 - 37.3 Pa) on the high fire setting. Some fuels may require higher or lower settings. The reading can be taken from the 1⁄8” (3 mm) hole located on the front of the unit below the ash shelf on the right hand side.

    </end>

    see it shows you set the damper at the High setting with a pressure gage and LEAVE IT.
    I know with my stove Out the wall and up 12 feet at 3000 foot elevation
    I had to have my air rod pulled out a little more than 1/2 way to get the 0.13 reading I wanted on high.
    when you turn the feed rate down the control board lowers the voltage to the blower and the vacuum reading will go down adjusting for less fuel in the burn pot.

    I cant believe your installers did not Adjust this for you.

    Can you post photos of the install?
    inside and out?
  17. hearthtools

    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    there is nothing to be afraid of
    Both the tech and owners manual give you step buy step trouble shooting
    when the stove gets pissy with you it has code lights on the board to tell you whats wrong. Unlike a wife or girl friend
    see the owners manual.
  18. hearthtools

    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    This is ALL covered in the owners manual

    also lets keep this in the other topic
    we dont need a lot of topics on this.
    Makes it easier for a future first time owner to find the info if it is in one place.

    SO IM put this topic and question with your other
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    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    what im reading you dont have a problem
    You are just to hot.
    The stove is not a Air cooler and air heater so if it is warm out and your house is well build then you just need to shut the stove off when it is warm.
    the low setting is the same as any other pellet stove about 8000 btu
    that will heat a large room

    so everyone with a pellet stove over even a wood stove is going through the same thing you are.
    TO HOT FOR A FIRE TODAY.

    Pull the air out about half way
    If you glass black then you need more air pull it out more.

    Grey build up on the out side edges on the glass is normal.
    You dont want black.
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    Great, thank you so much i really appreciate it. I was just alittle jumpy from the install they kind of left me hanging.
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    deadeye316 New Member

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    Pics of install I will put up outside tomorrow.

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    let me know if you need some particular pictures
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    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    I seen enough of the inside
    I would not have installed it like that
    Why to many 90 degree turns for my liking.
    3 90 degree turns before it even leaved the house?

    Good luck trying to keep that first section from the stove to the T pipe clear of fly ash.

    Is that 3" or 4" pipe?

    AND THEY DID NOT EVEN PAINT THE FRIGEN PIPE?
    HOW MUCH LABOR DID THEY CHARGE YOU?
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    hearthtools Moderator Emeritus

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    I know you dont have photos but what do you have on the outside?
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