Yes I'm sorry I meant depth not width. Woodstock told me even with the short leg kit it prob wouldn't fit height wise.
Just moved and looking to switch from pellet to wood
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Yes I'm sorry I meant depth not width. Woodstock told me even with the short leg kit it prob wouldn't fit height wise.
According to the dimensions you gave earlier I don't see a problem with the Progress. If you want you can re-measure using this scheme: http://www.woodheat.com/how-to-measure/
Post the numbers here; that will help in locking in on suitable models. Plus, taking that chart to the dealer(s) will also help.
Btw. Don't believe the "cat stoves are not good"- spin that you will still hear quite often. Some earlier models had problems that gave cat stoves a bad rap. Nowadays, most cat stoves on the market are working just fine. BlazeKing and Woodstock certainly make some of the best stoves you can buy.
Post the numbers here; that will help in locking in on suitable models. Plus, taking that chart to the dealer(s) will also help.
Btw. Don't believe the "cat stoves are not good"- spin that you will still hear quite often. Some earlier models had problems that gave cat stoves a bad rap. Nowadays, most cat stoves on the market are working just fine. BlazeKing and Woodstock certainly make some of the best stoves you can buy.
Yeah Im not a fan of the look. Want something kinda classic looking. I would like to get a free standing. I was told inserts aren't as good heating as free standing and def don't want anything with a blower. Ive changed my view on that.
He didn't say cat stoves aren't good. He just prefers non cat stoves from what I gathered. He said the stoves are heavy (700lbs), its just something else to break and that the data he has seen is that they perform well for 2 yrs, even for 2 yrs and then decline after until the cat needs to be replaced around year 7.
When you started out with the Enviro Boston I assumed you meant the insert . The freestanding Enviro Boston stove is top vented only. The Summit insert is a respectable heater and projects out on the hearth enough to provide decent heat with the blower off. On low speed the blower is quiet and adequate for decent air circulation.
How tall are the ceilings in the house? 3200 sq ft is a lot of area. High ceilings will increase the area to be heated. A blower may be desirable in this case even on a freestanding stove.
9 ft ceilings. I'm just going to keep some pedestal fans up around the house to circulate the air.
Maybe I am missing something but I don't see a problem with the Progress Hybrid. I would take the charts and measurements and send Woodstock an email asking whether the Progress with the short leg kit would fit (if you still want that stove). You will need to put a small hearth extension in front of the fireplace but with that height I assume ember protection will be enough.
Yep, the cat needs replacement around that time but they are not that expensive, ~$150 was mentioned here, I think. Until then the efficiency of the stove will be better or at least the same as a secondary burn stove. There is a reason the Progress has some of the lowest emission numbers out there. Low emissions = more complete combustion.
In one of my previous posts I also gave you some more options of large stoves that should work in your fireplace. Have you looked at those?
Ok Ive narrowed my selection between the Hearthstone Manchester and Jotul 500CF. I like the Jotul a lot. Especially in the blue black enamel. Looks very well built. The dealer I bought my old pellet stove highly recommends the hearthstone manchester. He says it is lines with soap stone which gives off a slower more radiant heat. That is a plus over the Jotul. The manchester also uses a convection air system which he says is more efficient than other models.
The Jotul is just under 4k with install. The Manchester is $3200 with install.
The Jotul is just under 4k with install. The Manchester is $3200 with install.
JA600L
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Yes thanks and I have narrowed it to two on your list. Thanks so much for your advice.
JA600L
Minister of Fire
There are two fairly negative reviews on the Manchester in Hearths review section. I just wanted to let you know that. I have no experience with them myself. You may want to go through reviews on some other ones you are interested in.
9 ft is not bad, much better than 21ft. The best circulation is often to
The Jotul F500 CB is primarily a side loader. I agree with the blue-black enamel. It's a beautiful finish. We had it on our F400. The Manchester is also a side loader. The early issues with the Manchester door were quickly addressed by Hearthstone with a modified design.
The Jotul F500 is undersized. You will need the F600. Make sure that side-loading door works for you.
Check for reviews of the Manchester; there were some early problems but I think they corrected them. The soapstone inside is not a big deal especially in your case. The fireplace will act as a large heat sink that will radiate heat into the room well after the fire is out.
Check for reviews of the Manchester; there were some early problems but I think they corrected them. The soapstone inside is not a big deal especially in your case. The fireplace will act as a large heat sink that will radiate heat into the room well after the fire is out.
Yeah I gave the measurements to the dealer and he said I should be fine with a side loader. Just have to put the Hearth extender on the floor. I thought the 500 would be undersized too and we did discuss the 600. Bigger firebox on the 600. The dealer said Id be giving up a couple hours of burn time 10-12 hrs with the 500 as opposed to 12- 14 with the 600, but Id still get overnight burns. The only thing I liked the better was the single front door of the 500 than the split door of the 600.
Those are mild weather burn times. Cold weather times may be more like 6-8 hrs with the F500. That's still decent especially if this is just supplemental to the central heating system. For a rough estimate figure 3-4 hrs/cu ft of capacity depending on the wood burned.
Oh ok, yeah he didn't say if it was mild or cold weather burns. This stove is just too keep my propane bills down. I doubt any stove would heat such a large house completely by itself. I like the Jotul alot. Wish the 600 had the single front door. I'm prob better off going with the 600 tho given the sq ft of the house.
I know you would need to take a leap of faith here since it is a new unit but the Quadrafire Explorer 3 comes with front and top loading, single door and an optional dark blue finish. It sounds like it could be the stove you are looking for. I would at least check with a Quadrafire dealer if you can see it in person.
Yes, Quadrafire makes good stoves. The Explorer's predecessor Isle Royale was/is a very strong heater with many happy owners. However, the design of the Explorer with inner steel firebox and outer cast iron jacket is pretty new to QF as is the top-loading feature. The first few impressions of the smaller Explorer 2 have been positive (e. g. https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/quadrafire-question.134342/#post-1805395 ) but only time will tell how well the Explorer 3 will perform. It's a risk but before you get a stove that will you look at in a few years and think "I should have gotten the single door..". It certainly does not hurt to check whether you can see one in person at a QF dealer to help with your decision.
JA600L
Minister of Fire
Ashful
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Owner of three older Jotul Firelights, here. What Jotul lacks in performance, they make up for in build quality.
Pros: Very heavy and well designed castings, fit, finish, quality. Nicest looking stoves on the market, IMO.
Cons: No customer tech support. You have to go thru your dealer, and many are not knowledgeable. Relatively unimpressive burn times. Parts not stocked in the US must come by boat from Norway, so a cracked casting or odd-ball part can mean losing two months of your burn season.
Pros: Very heavy and well designed castings, fit, finish, quality. Nicest looking stoves on the market, IMO.
Cons: No customer tech support. You have to go thru your dealer, and many are not knowledgeable. Relatively unimpressive burn times. Parts not stocked in the US must come by boat from Norway, so a cracked casting or odd-ball part can mean losing two months of your burn season.
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