new Vapor Fire 100 with very poor heat

[gary38532]

This is the room Im talking about if it leaks I bet its here. Problem is theres only about 6 inches between the roof and drywall

 

[brenndatomu]

Yeah you can only do some much with cathedral ceilings...I bet an audit shows other problem areas that are worse.
You said you run the ceiling fan in winter mode in the high ceiling areas?

 

[gary38532]

Yeah you can only do some much with cathedral ceilings...I bet an audit shows other problem areas that are worse.
You said you run the ceiling fan in winter mode in the high ceiling areas?

I do but it doesn't do anything

 

[gary38532]

also thats always been the hardest room to heat in the house. its the first to cool down and last to heat up even with the clayton

 

[gary38532]

The blower motor just started making mechanical noises it did for like 10 mins and now stopped and sounds normal again not sure what that was all about

 

[JRHAWK9]

The blower motor just started making mechanical noises it did for like 10 mins and now stopped and sounds normal again not sure what that was all about

could just be a vibration causing something to rattle...?

 

[gary38532]

it didnt sound like vibration to me thats fan always sounded strange almost choppy sounding but its never made noise like that before

 

[Mrpelletburner]

could just be a vibration causing something to rattle...?

The blower just became a wood chipper and took care of that mouse.

 

[gary38532]

The blower just became a wood chipper and took care of that mouse.

who knows at this point

 

[brenndatomu]

it didnt sound like vibration to me thats fan always sounded strange almost choppy sounding but its never made noise like that before

That noise you are describing makes me think of too much static pressure in the duct system...or something...ever talked to Lamppa about it?
I think I have heard the noise you are talking about...but I am trying to remember under what circumstances...

 

[brenndatomu]

I had a leaf get in the blower of a different furnace when it sat in the garage for a while...made a heck of a racket when it when through the blower!

 

[JRHAWK9]

That noise you are describing makes me think of too much static pressure in the duct system...or something...ever talked to Lamppa about it?
I think I have heard the noise you are talking about...but I am trying to remember under what circumstances...

He has a manometer, maybe he should put the hose on the other connection (assuming he's using the large scale for vacuum) and stick the other end in the plenum and see what his SP is.....?

 

[brenndatomu]

He has a manometer, maybe he should put the hose on the other connection (assuming he's using the large scale for vacuum) and stick the other end in the plenum and see what his SP is.....?

That was going through my mind too...

 

[gary38532]

He has a manometer, maybe he should put the hose on the other connection (assuming he's using the large scale for vacuum) and stick the other end in the plenum and see what his SP is.....?

I can do that. its just started making that sound again. Im a little confused on what you want me to do. Use the port on the high side to measure it?

 

[JRHAWK9]

I can do that. its just started making that sound again. Im a little confused on what you want me to do. Use the port on the high side to measure it?

yep, put it on the high side and then slide the other end inside the plenum with the blower running. Measure both low and high speeds while you are at it.

 

[gary38532]

ok high and low all the ducts are open in the house

 

[JRHAWK9]

Looks good to me.... @brenndatomu ?

If anything maybe a hair low, but nothing that will make any real world difference, IMO.

 

[brenndatomu]

Looks good to me.... @brenndatomu ?

If anything maybe a hair low, but nothing that will make any real world difference, IMO.

Absolutely fine IMO...way better than mine!

 

[gary38532]

Absolutely fine IMO...way better than mine!

wow I'm surprised I figured since everything else was wrong that would be too haha

 

[brenndatomu]

wow I'm surprised I figured since everything else was wrong that would be too haha

My ducts are all over sized due to being made for a monster coal furnace back in 1940...the only way I can get any real SP is to close all my registers...I have learned that SP is not normally that important on a solid fuel furnace as long as you are getting good temp rise through the furnace...mine runs about 40*...70* in, 110* out, on average...obviously those numbers vary a bit based on house temp and the state of the fire in the VF...

 

[gary38532]

My ducts are all over sized due to being made for a monster coal furnace back in 1940...the only way I can get any real SP is to close all my registers...I have learned that SP is not normally that important on a solid fuel furnace as long as you are getting good temp rise through the furnace...mine runs about 40*...70* in, 110* out, on average...obviously those numbers vary a bit based on house temp and the state of the fire in the VF...

hmmm do you think I would get more heat with bigger ones?

 

[brenndatomu]

hmmm do you think I would get more heat with bigger ones?

I doubt it...how many and how big are they? What is the total sq in? You could always add more ducts...

 

[gary38532]

I doubt it...how many and how big are they? What is the total sq in? You could always add more ducts...

I dont really know to tell you the truth. I have two main runs in the house one going through the left side of the house the other going to the right it brakes of to smaller runs that go to the rooms 9 times

 

[brenndatomu]

I dont really know to tell you the truth. I have two main runs in the house one going through the left side of the house the other going to the right it brakes of to smaller runs that go to the rooms 9 times

Sounds like it is surely enough total sq inches to accomadate the furnace...surprised that your SP is that high. Are there dampers in the duct system that are partially closed?
Is this the same duct system that the Clayton ran to? If it was big enough to distribute the heat from that monster it should do the job for the VF...

 

[brenndatomu]

this is what Ive been burning. I have lots more in my pole barn thats what Im burning tonight. I'm hoping this will give me less coals. Thats why I swicthed to the cherry in my pole barn.

Some of that looks kinda freshly cut...still tests out good on the MC after being re-split and checked in the middle?
As @JRHAWK9 mentioned earlier, a wet split or two is enough to throw off the "normal" performance of a load...let alone a whole load of marginal wood...must not be too far off if you are getting some time on pilot (c) though...