22T vs. 28T

Mojappa

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Mar 14, 2018
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about to pull the trigger on a dirty hands splitter, just on the fence between the 22t and the 28T. I see the 28 shows a two stage pump but the 22t doesn't mention two stage anywhere in the features (edit: found that both have the two stage pump). I split mostly oak and such, all hard woods, but no rounds over 24-36" most likely. pretty sure the 22t should smash everything I put in it, just don't want to suffer buyers remorse on the first nasty crotch piece.
 
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woodhog73

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I would assume the 22 ton cycle is faster. I have a 22 ton splutter and it splits what you describe just fine. If it’s real hard wood with knots just start at the edges not the center.
 

Mojappa

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Mar 14, 2018
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Cycle times of each?
Not sure but I’ll be using it mostly by myself so speed isn’t a huge concern. Borrowed my neighbors 27T DHT this past weekend and when I was by myself using it I didn’t seem to find myself wishing it was faster. That said if the 22T will split everything I’m likely to put through it then I don’t have to spend the extra $300 or so on the 28
 

Jazzberry

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Not sure but I’ll be using it mostly by myself so speed isn’t a huge concern. Borrowed my neighbors 27T DHT this past weekend and when I was by myself using it I didn’t seem to find myself wishing it was faster. That said if the 22T will split everything I’m likely to put through it then I don’t have to spend the extra $300 or so on the 28

The 22 is all the power you need and it is usually much quicker than a 28 along with being cheaper. I haven't found anything my 22 won't split yet and its been through a lot of wood.
 

Ashful

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Mar 7, 2012
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I’ve been arguing the last two years that 22 tons is all most will ever need, and far preferable to anything larger, thanks to usually having a better cycle time. Maybe it is catching on.

The only way I’d consider the 28T is if it has a larger pump than the 22T, and then I’d be immediately downgrading the cylinder from 4.5” to 4.0”, assuming those are the sizes involved (22 * 2.25^2/2^2 = 28).
 

Ashful

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Cycle times are listed as 28T: 10.5 and the 22T 10.9

So the bigger one is faster maybe due to the extra 3hp of the motor?

Hmmmm.....
That settles it... I’d definitely buy the 28T, along with a 4” cylinder. Hawk the 28T cylinder on eBay. Your cycle time would drop from 10.5 to 8.3 sec. That’s almost acceptable.
 

Mojappa

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That settles it... I’d definitely buy the 28T, along with a 4” cylinder. Hawk the 28T cylinder on eBay. Your cycle time would drop from 10.5 to 8.3 sec. That’s almost acceptable.
I’m probably not gonna modify it anytime soon, and again the few seconds difference doesn’t seem that valueable to me since from what I found the splitter was waiting for me to get back to it with another log and if it splits too quickly I feel like I’d probably just hurt myself trying to be fast. Most likely I’d be splitting a truckload or two at a time as I bring it to the house so I hopefully won’t find myself splitting cords and cords at a time. Kinda sounds like the extra $250 wouldn’t be necessary for the extra tonnage, more for the speed and upgradability. Still leaning towards the cheaper one.
 

Mojappa

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I have a 28t from TSC. It works fine. The above post show no problem with the 22t but would make sure it has a two stage pump for the tough stuff.
I did, after looking closer, verify that it’s got the two stage pump. After the replies here and the videos I’ve seen of it on YouTube I’m pretty sure it will meet my needs. I will only be splitting stuff I can get into my truck so that rules out 36” rounds. Anything that should happen to hang up the 22T will either end up in a pile to give to the neighbor or the fire pit. Gonna get the additional oversized log table that protects the engine as well with the money saved.
 
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Ashful

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I have a 28t from TSC. It works fine. The above post show no problem with the 22t but would make sure it has a two stage pump for the tough stuff.
It has to have a 2 stage to hit 11 seconds (high range) and 3000 psi (low range) all with a tiny little 196cc motor. No other way to do that on ~6hp.
 

Mojappa

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Trigger pulled. Still not 100% on my ducting but just ordered a bunch of elbows and straight 6” duct to start with. Gotta do an actual layout then find out if I’d need to size down from 6 to 5 or not.
 

Mojappa

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Got the 22T assmbled, just waiting for fluids. Going to drill two more table mounting holes on the other side so I can attach the factory log table to the right side of the machine. Mocked it up for pics and to make sure the lower bolts are long enough. Can’t wait to get to smashing some wood into bits. Thanks for the advice everyone.
 

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View attachment 243630 Got the 22T assmbled, just waiting for fluids. Going to drill two more table mounting holes on the other side so I can attach the factory log table to the right side of the machine. Mocked it up for pics and to make sure the lower bolts are long enough. Can’t wait to get to smashing some wood into bits. Thanks for the advice everyone.

Looks good.. enjoy..let me know what your thoughts are
 

Mojappa

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Got a few tanks through it getting the random piles around the yard cleaned up. Have yet to find anything that it wouldn’t bust open, though with some hesitation on some really bad ones. As for anything I would be intending to use for firewood it seems to fit the bill of what I need. Extra long table is a huge help as well as offering peace of mind that the motor is protected. One gripe is that the one end doesn’t have anything to prevent the chunks from vibrating off the table while you’re working with the other half, but that’s easily fixed. Thanks again for the advice guys, now I’m about caught up and ready to start bringing more rounds to the house.
 

sprawlnstall

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Jan 15, 2018
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I pulled the trigger on DHT 22 ton last year, It will split everything you throw at it. It has been a great machine and easy to start, I've split around 15 cords and have had zero problems. The only complaint was assembly was tough, poor directions. I was able to move and unload it myself but some help would have made it much easier. It did not come with fluids, so have 20 ounces of oil and 8 gallons of hydraulic oil ready. The advertised cycle time is accurate.
 
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