Correction that was 2 Santa Fe's. I like those corkscrew augers and wow they are real pellet misers!
Adding a Pellet Stove to the Cellar
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Correction that was 2 Santa Fe's. I like those corkscrew augers and wow they are real pellet misers!
Can anyone recommend a good source for tips on installing a vent kit through a block basement wall? I have never done an install before but with some instruction I'm sure I can get it done. Are the wall thimbles all 6" diameter? That's a pretty big hole through the foundation!!
Masonry drill bits and a cold chisel and you can do it! I assume you have a hammer and drill.
What about the wall thimble, screws and lots of calk?Masonry drill bits and a cold chisel and you can do it! I assume you have a hammer and drill.
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I have a pellet stove in my "cellar". My 2200 sq foot raised ranch is heated by it, and it alone,. except when the temp drops down below 15 F for a day or longer. Then the oil furnace kicks on once in a while. but, my house in only the in the ground 2-3 feet on three sides and not at all on one. All my walls are insulated with 4 in. fiberglass batts. Both levels are finished. The floor is not insulated. I removed the carpets and put down tile because of our pets. No water issues. I don't know what kind of heat you think you will get from that stove in an uninsulated space, but I question if it is going to make you happy. Let us know.
Love the dogs in your avatar!
I'm just looking to heat the basement so it's not an ice box down there, nothing more. My wood stove on the first floor heats almost the entire house without a problem so I just wanted something in the cellar that would take the chill off and I don't have to monitor on an hourly basis. That being said, I'm pretty sure the pellet stove will heat the 900 SF without too much issue, (I hope!!). I will definitely post my results this winter. I also only have 2-1/2 walls under ground but about 6 feet, the last wall is all above ground.
For what it's worth I put a pellet stove in the un-insulated basement two years ago. I just put it down there for the times I need to do stuff down there and then shut it down. It sits on the concrete floor and I don't give any thought to it. That 1,000 feet of floor and the block walls suck up a ton of heat themselves.
It takes a long time for any heat to want to come upstairs. But with the blower in the pellet puppy it is comfortable down there pretty quick.
It takes a long time for any heat to want to come upstairs. But with the blower in the pellet puppy it is comfortable down there pretty quick.
That's exactly what I'm looking for, I don't need the heat upstairs thanks to my Fireview. I'll see how the winter goes and If I have to insulate I will do that, but I'll see if the pellet stove will heat the cellar without it.
Yeah I have always had wood stoves down there. But now that my office isn't down there that on/off button on the pellet stove is nice. No going down and starting a fire an hour before doing anything, guessing how much wood to put in it and then essentially wasting wood and heat after I am done.
Jaymaine34
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I'm looking for simple and easy ! Only looking at 1000sq ft of finished space . The only feature I care about is a stat ( wanna set and forget ) 3/4 of basement is finished ( rigid foam on walls ) carpeted floor . Basement was fine before we put in pellet stove ( stayed about 65-67)
Furance only heats water now . So January /February gets down to about 60 . So I don't feel I'm trying to make up much 5-10 degrees max . I like my pellets and want to stick with them ! I figure I can get this done for 1000-15000 ( includes install )
Just don't want a problem stove ! Love my Quad just not looking to spend that kind of $$ .
Been looking at some refurbished stoves online prices are good just need to find a local installer . Wish some of the guys on here that refurb and install stoves were closer .
Furance only heats water now . So January /February gets down to about 60 . So I don't feel I'm trying to make up much 5-10 degrees max . I like my pellets and want to stick with them ! I figure I can get this done for 1000-15000 ( includes install )
Just don't want a problem stove ! Love my Quad just not looking to spend that kind of $$ .
Been looking at some refurbished stoves online prices are good just need to find a local installer . Wish some of the guys on here that refurb and install stoves were closer .
I noticed in the manual it states the vent pipe must be 4 feet horizontally or 1 foot above any door or window. Does that mean on the wall where it exits only, or does that 4 feet apply to around the corner as well? I'm trying to figure out the best location and install method for the stove, what do you think would yield the best results? I will have about 4-5 feet of vertical pipe, the exit through the block foundation. Then I will have the two options below.
1. Out from the foundation on the cedar siding side, 3 feet of vertical pipe then the cap?
2. Out from the foundation on the vinyl siding side of the house, 10 feet of pipe to get above the window clearance and then the cap?
Would number 2 be too much pipe? What would give me the best results?
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1. Out from the foundation on the cedar siding side, 3 feet of vertical pipe then the cap?
2. Out from the foundation on the vinyl siding side of the house, 10 feet of pipe to get above the window clearance and then the cap?
Would number 2 be too much pipe? What would give me the best results?
I was looking around for an installer the past couple days to get a price on a basement install of my stove and it's not easy finding someone around here! The store I bought the stove from wants $450. Does that number seem high to anyone else or is that the going rate? Any local installers here on the forum that would be interested in giving me a price, or is this frowned upon here? I couldn't find anything in the stickies pertaining to this.
Jaymaine34
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I paid close to $1000. In 2008, And that was for a simple 3 ft rise up and out. Got the bill after the install.
mepellet
Minister of Fire
Dang.... you really like those P61A's huh? Do any of them require thermal protection under the stove? What are the R values for the raised hearths?
All 3 are on raised hearths, that have porcelain tile over 1/2" cement board over 3/4" plywood on 2x4s or 2x6s for strength. The hearths in the shed and basement with slotted overhangs contain 1/2" LED rope light. The basement hearth has a 220 VAC 900 watt electric heater for backup and the shed hearth has a lighted opening for holding manuals and tools. I may put a door on it sometime.
mepellet
Minister of Fire
Were any of them made during the time that thermal protection was required? Mine was.
Sorry to derail the thread even more. I just know that some people were not aware of this requirement (including my stove dealer). I hate seeing things that are not installed to the manufacturer's requirements.
mepellet
Minister of Fire
Thanks, Harman stove bodies do get hotter than any other pellet stove I have seen, so adaquate floor protection is a must!
All 3 hearths have a layer of 1/2" fireproof cement board like lessoil has in this post. Like him there are no problems here with that.
mepellet
Minister of Fire
Not to split hairs but his post doesn't indicate any R or K values so his hearth might not be adequate either....
Pay very close attention to what mepellet is saying it can save your house.
Somewhere on this site is a report with pictures of what was happening below an ember protection only hearth pad with a particular Harman model that was operated on that pad.
Somewhere on this site is a report with pictures of what was happening below an ember protection only hearth pad with a particular Harman model that was operated on that pad.
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