First off I would just like to say that I really like this stove, and it has been keeping my house very warm. The problem I am having though is that after the stove has been running for an hour or so, I'll start to see the upper right hand corner of the glass window start turning black. I have tried three different brands of pellets, but still have the same problem. I also give the stove the stove a good cleaning each day with my shop vac, including behind the baffle plate, scraping the burn pot and basically keeping everything clean. I also have the OAK installed as well. I usually allways have the blower running a couple points ahead as well, like 3-7, or 3-3. Could this be the result of a leaking gasket around the glass or door? I have posted a couple of pics below.
Black glass Englander 25-pdvc
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My experience is, I get black or very dark brown all over the glass, except for the upper left hand corner after 12 or so hours of burn. I simply open the stove up slowly when running, take a crumpled up piece of newspaper and wipe the glass. It take 10 seconds or so. I have never had an evident black spot that drew my attention that something may be leaking. Do you have any kind of smoky smell in your house?
Nope, no smokey smell in the house. It just seems kind of odd that it only gets black in the same spot each time. I will say that it does wipe off very easily.
My settings ar 5-5-1 on the bottom three buttons and usually 1-2 or 2-3 on the top two buttons. Hope this helps. Factory settings on bottom three is 6-4-1. With my stove, if you could take that black spot and move it to the upper left hand side, that is the cleanest part on my glass after 12 hours or so and not after an hour.
stevieboy28 said:
My PDVC does the exact same thing....I open the door every couple of hours and wipe the glass off. I run my stove at 5-9-1 and have tried many different pellets with pretty much the same results except for Pennwood Pellets that I've been running off and on this year....those pellets don't blacken the glass as quick. I have to say though, I love our stove and will be buying another one when we finish our basement. I think their customer service is top-notch.
My Summers Heat does the exact same thing. The lower center of the glass gets covered in soot first...then is spreads. After about 1.5 days of straight burning...about 3/4 of the window is covered. Luckily its not that cold on Long Island and we shut it down pretty often. I typically burn at 3/5...sometimes 2/5.
So far this stove is fantastic. It's been installed about 3 weeks now (so take my experience with a grain of salt)...and the oil burner has not been on once (1800 sq ft 2 story cape)
So far this stove is fantastic. It's been installed about 3 weeks now (so take my experience with a grain of salt)...and the oil burner has not been on once (1800 sq ft 2 story cape)
stevieboy28 said:
sooting within an hour is not normal , sooting after a day or two is fairly common, check out your door gasket around the area that its blackening up , you may need to "shift it" a bit or maybe get a replacement from us , no biggie contact the shop and we''ll ship one right out if needed. check also to see that the burn pot is tight and that the "wear plate" the grate your pelets sit on as they burn, seats flat in its resting place. let me know what you turn up and if i need to have you contacted
stoveguy2esw said:
So funny. I was getting ready to post this exact same question. The soot on the glass has recently gotten blacker over the last few bags. I wouldn't say that it is within an hour, but it certainly appears after a few hours. Why would a gasket leak cause the glass to get black? I have burned through about 1.5 Ton thus far, i thought maybe the vent was starting to block up??? Another thing that happens more an more is that when i open the door for the daily cleaning, i notice more ash on the ledge of the glass and on the bottom ledge where the door opens from..
Any further thoughts?
These stove are basically "air tight"... if you have a bad gasket or leave the ashpan door open they will soot up. They will also soot up if you have a plugged up stove... you may be ready for a "leafblower" cleaning...
Had the same problem, there are 2 holes under the burn plate at the bottom of the burn pot. I put a small amount of steel wool in these holes so more air would blow through the burn plate holes. I can run my stove for days and the glass does not even get dirty.
I believe those holes you are refering to are what allow the air to blow out the little holes on the sides of the burn put for the "crossfire burn", for lack of a better term. I don't think you want to block those off. And how is it that your steel wool didnt burn up? That stuff is very flammable.
It still blows out those holes on the sides, just not as much with the steel wool in there. Don't know why, but the steel wool is still there.
krooser said:
yep.. I might give this a try tomorrow. :gulp: SHould be interesting..
My gasket around the hopper, the door and the glass is starting to fray, so maybe i have a couple things going. i think the leaf blower will at least ease some of my concerns of blockage. Although i did kind of wanted to wait and see at the end of the season how much soot, ash, and creosote is left behind in the vent pipes. It would probably ease my concerns of fire hazards occuring to see the pellets do generally burn clean and don't clog up much (I use Lignetics hardwood). I certainly do not want to undo the vent pipe as it took me way too long to seal this bad boy up from getting smoke in the house to begin with.
houset said:
Update: I also was burning on a setting of 4/6, 5/7.. I cleaned the stove, cleaned the glass, and really made sure that door was tight after closing it up.. i set the burn setting to 6/6, and for 4 hours, the glass stayed relatively clean. Not sure which one of the above worked, so i will be experimenting some more.
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