Contorl Board Replacement Sources-Older Stoves

[pellet]

I thought I'd start a thread that seems to be something of a problem many of us older stove owners have. Most parts are pretty much shelf replacement items or can be fabricated, but the control boards seem to be the thing that kills us when they go bad. They are either so expensive the stove isn't worth the cost or just not available at all. My particular stove is an old Martin Venturi and there are very minimal controls needed to make it work but I'm not an electronics type and would like to be prepared for the day that board goes bad. Having a spare on the shelf would really make me more comfortable. I know trying to make one board fit all stoves may not be feasible but it would seem a few should cover the functions of many older stoves. I know this is a rather broad topic but think it would be valuable to so many of us to try to bring the information under one thread as an information source if the knowledge is out there. I have a pellet stove control board compatibility chart for Brickwell from this website for a few things that might be useful but doesn't cover all (Mine for example has a 6 rpm auger motor and dial controls for pellet feed and room air blower. It doesn't have any pressure or door switches but does have a t-stat connection that drops it down to keep fire mode.):

Pellet Stove Control Board Compatibility Chart
(broken link removed to http://www.hearthtools.com/parts/Breckwell_Contro_) Board_chart.htm

Part Number RPM Stove Models When It Was Used Settings Required Adapter
A-E-CB91 4 P24 1990 – 1991 Models 1,2,3,4, Max A-E-91RB
A-E-CB91 4 P24I 1990 – 1991 Models 1,2,3,4, Max A-E-91RB
A-E-CB91 4 P20 1990 Model
The A-E-CB91 control board is no longer available. Stoves have to be upgraded to the C-E-950 board.
This will require a C-E-080-HAR wiring harness.
The hole for the board in the side panel will have to be enlarged to accommodate the new board.

C-E-022 1 P22 Old P22 Models High, Med, Low
C-E-022 1 P23 Prior to ’99 Models High, Med, Low

C-E-057 1 P22 Old P22 Models Low, B. C. High
C-E-057 1 P23 Prior to ’99 Models Low, B. C. High

C-E-950 4 P20 1991 Models Low, B, C, D, E, Max A-E-PIG
C-E-950 4 P23 Starting in ’99 to 6331 Low, B, C, D, E, Max
C-E-950 4 P23I Starting in ’99 to 1915 Low, B, C, D, E, Max
C-E-950 4 P24 ’92 Models to 53318 Low, B, C, D, E, Max ’92 Models Only A-E-PIG
C-E-950 4 P24I ’92 Models to 53318 Low, B, C, D, E, Max ’92 Models Only A-E-PIG
C-E-950 4 P26 All Units Low, B, C, D, E, Max ’92 Models Only A-E-PIG
C-E-950 4 P28 All Units Low, B, C, D, E, Max A-E-PIG2KFS
C-E-950 4 P28I All Units Low, B, C, D, E, Max
C-E-950 4 P32I All Units Low, B, C, D, E, Max ’92 Models Only A-E-PIG
C-E-950 4 P2000 All Analog Units Low, B, C, D, E, Max A-E-PIG2FFS
C-E-950 4 P2000I All Analog Units Low, B, C, D, E, Max
C-E-950 4 P2700 Up to 7899 Low, B, C, D, E, Max
Adapters:
A-E-91RB = Ribbon wire harness
A-E-PIG = Spade wire to molex adapter PHOTO

A-E-PIG2KFS = 6 plug molex to 8 plug molex adapter
The A-E-CB91 control board is no longer available. Stoves have to be upgraded to the C-E-950 board.
This will require a C-E-080-HAR wiring harness. The hole for the board in the side panel will have to be enlarged to accommodate the new board.

DIGITAL CIRCUIT BOARD CHART

Part Number RPM Stove Models Serial Number Range Settings
C-E-300 4 P23 6332 - 7165 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-300 4 P23I 1916 - 2242 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-300 4 P24 53319 - 53663 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-300 4 P24I 53220 - 53794 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-300 4 P2000 ? – 11779 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-300 4 P2000I ? – 22207 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-300 4 P2700 7900 - 8444 1,2,3,4,5

C-E-400 1 P23 7166 - Present 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-400 1 P23I 2243 - Present 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-400 1 P24 53664 - Present 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-400 1 P24I 53795 - Present 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-400 1 P2000 11780 - Present 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-400 1 P2000I 22208 - Present 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-400 1 P2700 8445 - Present 1,2,3,4,5
C-E-400 1 P1000
(The Big E) All units 1,2,3,4,5

C-E-100 1 P22 224-3401 1,2,3,4



Anyone an electronics type or has had experience adapting, or building a simple board? I really think this is a topic that needs to be addressed better. Thanks for any input.

 

[Roadstar]

I have a 1994 Breckwell P24I that had a control board go bad approximately 8 years ago perhaps longer. At the time I was able to purchase another analog board from a local dealer. My concern now is what will I do when the newer board goes out. Luckily for me I did not throw the old bad board away (I’m a pack rat). I am getting ready to ship it off to be repaired sometime this week.

I thought about rewiring the old stove for a new digital board and posted my concerns here a while ago but to my recollection no body responded. I’m not sure if it is DYI project or not. I would have to enlarge hole for a new digital board and I assume that would be the hardest part.

Thanks for posting the Control Board Chart. The link you posted needs fixing ‘cause I get a 404. I did select the whole thing and did see a chart but it is incomplete.

Here is where I am sending my board.

I saw David’s video on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTvsduYSkzg

I researched further and found his Kijiji web page:
I had to modify the link because Hearth.com will not let me post it. It says it’s blacklisted.
http://(REMOVE)peterborough.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-home-appliances-BRECKWELL-PELLET-STOVE-CONTROL-BOARD-REPAIR-SERVICE-W0QQAdIdZ258917273

Just the other day someone on here had problems with their Breckwell P2000 and imacman posted a link to a post David made here on Hearth.com.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/75933/

I found this site for your Martin stove.

Martin Industries Pellet Stove Support:
http://api-assembled.com/support/martin/martin.htm

 

[Stovensen]

Forum member Snowy Rivers has made her own control board using only standard off the shelf parts. Some rewiring is required, but all in all it seems to be possible to fit in most pellet stoves.

Here you can read about it, with schematics and all:

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/80023/

 

[pellet]

Roadstar,
Thanks for the links. I had heard about David's services but don't know what he charges. If you or anyone knows maybe you could post it here. If it is reasonable it may be the simplest way to go. I copied the info on the boards for Breckwell some time ago so not surprised the link isn't working. Thanks for working on it. I am aware of Assembled Products website, it's just the cost that is the problem for many of us and was hoping to get something going here that might be more affordable. I know a simple board can be made or modified for not much money.

Stovensen,
I have seen Snowey's thread and studied it. The part I am not sure about is how to modify it for my stove. I have studied the schematic posted there and tried to apply to my stove.
I do not have the following:
-pressure switch (would you just run the blue wire from the timer directly to the feed motor eliminating the burner off/on switch, pressure switch, and burner lamp? Would the components on the control board work with a 6 RPM auger motor which is what my stove has. I think the stoves Snowy was dealing with had 1 RPM auger motors.),
-burner on/off switch (addressed above hopefully),
-momentary switch to start (would you just run the red hot wire directly to the timer L1 and the neutral to the timer N to eliminate this switch?),
-latch out relay (would the L1 and neutral just go straight to the power chord/120v outlet?),
-low limit snap switch (would the pink hot wire just go straight to the L1 on the timer?),
-door switch (would the yellow hot wire just go straight to the triac speed control?). I have a rotary speed control for the room air fan but not sure if it is a TRIAC speed control, it is separately mounted from the board with wires to it from the board and on to the fan.
-And finally, if these things were all ok, what are the specific components and which are located on the circuit board?

Note: I have been on Snowey's thread and it is getting very interesting. If you have an older stove and are having control board problems, Stovensen is right on target. There is some very good information there.

 

[mr coffee]

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anyone know of this guy? This is probably an old thread but searching for P2700 stuff