Englander 25-PVDC window clearance

[naughted]

I have purchased a Englander 25-PVDC pellet stove. My question is how close can I install it to an operating window. If I kitty corner the unit I have 13 1/2" to the windows woodwork, Is this acceptable. I know each state/town has it's own building codes but on overage will this work? I have attatched a picture showing the position I wish to install the unit. There is over 6" from each rear corner to the wall behind it and 8" from the exhaust in the back to the wall. Does an existing forced Hot Water baseboard heater running behind the unit cause an issue?

 

[GVA]

First the manual says 6" from sides and back, So I would assume that 6" to corners should be ok...... (Mike shouldn't this be listed in the manual)
Second you need to build a hearth for that location.
Third ESW says that outside air is required for all thier pellet stoves. So this should be ok for install near a operable window. I believe its 4 feet from A window without outside air and 18" with outside air
The FHW baseboard will only cause an issue when you build your hearth

I havn't seen Stoveguy2esw here all weekend where are ya????? Maybe he got tix to XLI

 

[naughted]

Thanks GVA, I know I have to build a hearth and install the Venting. The unit is just placed where I want to install it to see how it fits. I just want to make sure it is okay to install it where it is before I start building the hearth.

 

[GVA]

Similar install, my window is just a bit out of the picture it is 4' to the exhaust..

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/3518/

I would however wait for Mikes blessing on the clearance for your stove, because you will need access to the back and I don't know if the 6" at the corners is enough My Harman requires 7" for corner mount because of this..But I would say you can start getting the supplies ready for the hearth and call ESW in the morning if they don't post here today..
Good luck

 

[naughted]

"I believe its 4 feet from A window without outside air and 18” with outside air"

GVA I plan on supplying outside air, so is the 18" clearance to the exhaust or the side/corner of the unit? With 6" from the corners I have a pretty good amount of space behind to get the pannel off for service and also plenty of room to the side panel. Thanks for your replies I'm going to head to Lowes for the Hearth materials in a while, looking to get my permit from town hall tomorrow.

 

[naughted]

Anyone else have any knowledge of the proper clearances?

 

[begreen]

They're probably all watching the game pre-show about now . I think what you are proposing will be fine. But if you want to be absolutely certain, wait until tomorrow and PM Mike or call Englander's great tech support.

 

[Xena]

Do you have the manual? Installation specs should
be in it. If you don't have one, you can download
one in PDF format from: http://www.englandsstoveworks.com/manuals.html

 

[begreen]

Here are some more pipe installation links:
http://www.englandsstoveworks.com/manuals/PelletInstallation.pdf
http://www.englandsstoveworks.com/manuals/InstallingtheOutsideAirKit.pdf
http://www.englandsstoveworks.com/manuals/SimpsonInstallation.pdf

 

[naughted]

Do you have the manual? Installation specs should
be in it. If you don't have one, you can download
one in PDF format from: http://www.englandsstoveworks.com/manuals.html

I do have the manual and I meet all the clearance specs to the wall and any combustables. But, from what I understand, and I may be wrong, an operating window also needs a specific clearance and the manual does not say what it is. So I guess my only question is, is a window just concidered a combustable due to the wood and curtains, therefore only needs 6", or do you need a certain distance from a window to install the Stove? The exhaust itself is a good 2' 9" from the window.

 

[GVA]

As far as the exhaust mounting
read this
Page 8 NFPA 211
(broken link removed to http://www.duravent.com/docs/instruct/L502_aug05.pdf)
The manual does not show clearance for corner mounts. It seems that you have enough but 6" at the corners can be a bi%^h to work on for routine cleanings of the blowers etc.
Is there a plate on the back of the stove that shows the clearances for the corner mount?
Just wait till tommorrow and get all your questions answered by the guys at ESW......... Please....
Now I'm off to watch the game......


OOOPPS
Welcome to the forum.......

 

[begreen]

Do you have the manual? Installation specs should
be in it. If you don't have one, you can download
one in PDF format from: http://www.englandsstoveworks.com/manuals.html

I do have the manual and I meet all the clearance specs to the wall and any combustables. But, from what I understand, and I may be wrong, an operating window also needs a specific clearance and the manual does not say what it is. So I guess my only question is, is a window just concidered a combustable due to the wood and curtains, therefore only needs 6", or do you need a certain distance from a window to install the Stove? The exhaust itself is a good 2' 9" from the window.

I think you may be referring to a wood stove issue. Your pellet stove has much tighter side clearances and yes, the window is just another combustible. From the look of things you are fine on your interior clearances. However, the exhaust must terminate on the exterior a minimum specified distance from a window in order to avoid CO returning into the home.

This is from the Quadrafire Santa Fe installation manual:

B. Venting Termination Requirements
1. Termination must exhaust above air inlet elevation. It is
recommended that at least 60 inches (1524mm) of vertical
pipe be installed when appliance is vented directly
through a wall. This will create a natural draft, which will
help prevent the possibility of smoke or odor venting into
the home during a power outage. It will also keep exhaust
from causing a nuisance or hazard by exposing people or
shrubs to high temperatures. The safest and preferred
venting method is to extend the vent vertically through the
roof.
2. Distance from doors and opening windows, or gravity or
ventilation air inlets into building:
a. Not less than 48 inches (1219mm) below;
b. Not less than 48 inches (1219mm) horizontally from;
c. Not less than 12 inches (305mm) above.
3. Distance from permanently closed windows:,
a. Not less than 12 inches (305) below; horizonatlly from
or above.
4. Distance between bottom of termination and grade should
be 24 inches (610mm) minimum. This is conditional upon
plants in the area, and nature of grade surface. The grade
surface must be a noncombustible material (i.e., rock, dirt).
The grade surface must not be lawn. Distance between
bottom of termination and public walkway should be 84
inches (2134mm) minimum.
5. Distance to combustible materials must be 24 inches
(610mm) minimum. This includes adjacent buildings,
fences, protruding parts of the structure, roof overhang,
plants and shrubs, etc.
6. Termination Cap Location (Home Electrical Service)
• Side-to-side clearance is to be the same as minimum
clearance to vinyl inside corners.
• Clearance of a termination cap below electrical service
shall be the same as minimum clearance to vinyl soffits.
• Clearance of a termination cap above electrical service
will be 12 inches minimum.
• Location of the vent termination must not obstruct or
interfere with access to the electrical service.

(broken link removed)

 

[naughted]

Thanks All for all the help!

Sounds like I'm good to go, I'll let the town make the final call when I go for the permit tomorrow. I'm sure they will let me know the do's and dont's also.