Extention cord down ash dump / Hearthstone Clydesdale

[rayrster]

Hi All,

Any experts out there on electrical? I'm having a Clydesdale installed tomorrow, the owner of the dealer that came out for pre inspection mentioned I could run a heavy duty extension cord down the ash dump to the basement for the blower so the cord isn't visible... there are plugs close to the fire box on the walls, see picture. ( I'd like not to see the wire but not to jeopardize safety)

I've read mixed reviews on this but assume ( I know the saying ) if the dealer recommended it it happens a lot but looking for expert help.... Thank in advance!

 

[begreen]

I think code requires that the appliance power needs to be switchable (or disconnectable) in the same room. Then there is the question of heat produced under the insert.

 

[rayrster]

I think code requires that the appliance power needs to be switchable (or disconnectable) in the same room. Then there is the question of heat produced under the insert.

Thanks Begreen.. That's what I'm figuring. I'll deal with the 2ft of cord for now exposed, the cons out weigh the pros on this. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

 

[Grisu]

When you have the tools in front of it and a rack with wood (or tub with kindling) next, you won't really see it at all. Mine is so well hidden, you almost have to know it is there.

 

[rayrster]

Thx Grisu, You are right.. Just got a small wood rack delivered today.. I'll post pics. tomorrow of the final install.

 

[Midway43]

I think code requires that the appliance power needs to be switchable (or disconnectable) in the same room. Then there is the question of heat produced under the insert.

You sure? My dishwasher, stove etc isn't switchable or disconnectable in the same room.

hmm come to think of it, I replaced the dishwasher a couple years ago. I do not remember how it got power. Is there a plug behind it? It is hardwired? Now this is going to bother me.

 

[begreen]

Hard wired most likely. So it the range/oven. I think the difference is that this is a plug in device. There are some electricians over in the DIY room. I will link this thread over there to see if we can get a definitive answer.

 

[Midway43]

Hard wired most likely. So it the range/oven. I think the difference is that this is a plug in device. There are some electricians over in the DIY room. I will link this thread over there to see if we can get a definitive answer.

oh ok.

So is it OK to hardwire it and run the cable down the ash door?

 

[rayrster]

I guess my fear is if something did happen and insurance found out they wouldn't cover damages.... For 2 feet of exposed cord it's not worth the risk.

I see where a lot of people drop it down the dump but if it ever melted or caused an electrical fire is my concern. Last thing I want is a electrified stove if it shorted. (if the GFI failed)

 

[begreen]

This question comes up a few times a year. It would be good to get an answer from an electrician with a current code book.

 

[velvetfoot]

You have an outlet on either side, so it doesn't even matter which way the door opens.

 

[seige101]

Putting a flexible cord with in walls or a chimney is a no go
Per 2014 NEC "400.8 Uses Not Permitted. Unless specifically permitted
in 400.7, flexible cords and cables shall not be used for the
following:
(1) As a substitute for the fixed wiring of a structure
(2) Where run through holes in walls, structural ceilings,
suspended ceilings, dropped ceilings, chases, or floors."

 

[Midway43]

what about hard wiring it through the ash door?

 

[seige101]

Still no.

 

[Midway43]

What would be the best way to hard wire the insert?

 

[Warm_in_NH]

If it's like a dishwasher it either needs to be plugged into an outlet or hard wired on a switched circuit.

I'm not an electrician, but I believe it has something to do with ease of disconnect for service purposes.