Kind of weird. It fit right into the collar for my Heritage that firecracker now owns.
Getting a Hearthstone up to 600°
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Oh it went in, it just is a very sloppy fit. The collar on the stove is too big to make a nice tight seal. The cast iron stove collar is the perfect diameter and taper to mate with the regular snout end of the double wall pipe as MSG pointed out in the thread.
Looks like you even screwed the adapter to the collar. This would have crushed the outer wall I'd think.
My advice to firecracker is to just set that appliance adapter into the collar of the stove all by itself so that you can visually confirm that it fits tight into the collar's taper without bottoming out on anything. You need this seal to be tight. It has to pass the walrus test, you know, every walrus likes a nice tight seal.
Looks like you even screwed the adapter to the collar. This would have crushed the outer wall I'd think.
My advice to firecracker is to just set that appliance adapter into the collar of the stove all by itself so that you can visually confirm that it fits tight into the collar's taper without bottoming out on anything. You need this seal to be tight. It has to pass the walrus test, you know, every walrus likes a nice tight seal.
I did have a snug fit. It passed the cursing test; that's when I swear at it while trying to remove it. It was screwed in to the collar and nothing was dented or warped. A little weird that you and I had drastically different outcomes to the same product.
i dont recall getting our phoenix much past the 425 zone. i guess several splts and cut back air in stages seems to be the trick, thanks for posting ,i will have to give it a try on one of those freezing winter days when the wind is howling.
You and Highbeam are the resident experts. I will be checking in with you guys as I put the damper in.
Hopefully it works out for you. But, you can not ignore Highbeam's experiences with the fitting. For me, it worked and fit well. For the life of me, I do not know what the difference was.
Hi guys I am new to the forum so forgive me if this problem was answered, I had searched on here but I cat seem to get a definitive answer to my problem I really need some help with my new rebuilt Heritage 8021 soapstone stove.I will try to explain my setup and problem as clearly a possible.
I included a picture of the stove and setup.
The short description is this stove will not get, and stay hot at all...
Ok here is my setup I have about 16' of double walled pipe on the outside of the house.
Inside the house the stove pipe is about 4' single wall standard black pipe with an elbow.
I have No stove pipe damper on the inside here is what happens.
Using even very dry seasoned wood can I get the box hotter then 200deg barley stays at 170?
The side medal door will be 300 - 400 but the top and stone barely 180
The strange thing is I can raise the Temp of the box only if I open the ash draw
( as I was told Never to leave open ) can I get the stove pipe and the stove to 450 -500 deg and it feels like its actually heating and I then see the Re burner pipes inside working but as soon as I close the ash draw within a half hour, the box is 180 the stove pipe temp will be 325 deg ??
Now when I open that ash draw it is sucking a TON of air and the fire then gets huge so I know its drafting well.
There is a Good flame burning inside but barley any heat coming off the stone ?
I am also BLOWING through 30 - 20 " pieces of Seasoned Oak in a day I am not exaggerating!
I have tried small wood, big wood, Same outcome, I have to keep feeding this every 45 Min or it will just burn out...
Now here is where I am confused I was told when I spent $2,100 for this completely rebuilt stove and it was beautiful looking and rebuilt very well with all new stone glass, and seals.
But he assured me that Soapstone Stoves were far better then metal ones because of the heat retention and radiation.
I have a cheap Century FW300007 Wood stove out in my studio with extremely high ceiling's and I can barely stay in that huge room when that stove is on low even when its 20deg out?
Maybe this can be a clue for an answer as to what's going on..
The Soapstone stove stone temp with a fairly large fire the Top and Stone will be 175 deg but the pipe will be 325 deg.
The Metal stove will be completely opposite, the stove on a VERY low burn will be 375 deg and the pipe ( Also with no Damper ) will only be 180- 200 deg..
I was going to sell this Brand new rebuilt stove on Craig's List for $500 dollars just to get rid of it to buy a cheap metal stove like the Century just to get a working stove that puts off heat but I will see if its something I am doing wrong here first before I take the huge loss!
Is this model stove just a piece of crap or am I doing something totally wrong ?
I can fill the Metal stove before bed and 8 hours later there will still be wood burning when I wake.
With this Soapstone stove I have to Literally put wood in it every hour or within 2 hours it will be out. Sure the stone stays warm for a few hours but a worthless amount of heat..
Please If anyone has any suggestions I would totally appreciate it, I Just cant believe this stove is THAT BAD !
What should the box standard operating temp be so I am not BLOWING through 30 pieces of wood a day ?
This has me completely miffed????
I'm using a Laser thermometer so I am confident the temps I am telling you are accurate.
Does this stove require a Damper ?
I really don't want to waste another $200 dollars on a damper and new Pipe if it is just a Bad Stove to begin with ..
If it is a Damper issue, does it go right above the collar of the stove or in the middle of the pipe?
Like I said any help or suggestions will be totally appreciated as I just am compleatly unsure as to what's going on here..
Thanks guys in advance
Steve K.
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I included a picture of the stove and setup.
The short description is this stove will not get, and stay hot at all...
Ok here is my setup I have about 16' of double walled pipe on the outside of the house.
Inside the house the stove pipe is about 4' single wall standard black pipe with an elbow.
I have No stove pipe damper on the inside here is what happens.
Using even very dry seasoned wood can I get the box hotter then 200deg barley stays at 170?
The side medal door will be 300 - 400 but the top and stone barely 180
The strange thing is I can raise the Temp of the box only if I open the ash draw
( as I was told Never to leave open ) can I get the stove pipe and the stove to 450 -500 deg and it feels like its actually heating and I then see the Re burner pipes inside working but as soon as I close the ash draw within a half hour, the box is 180 the stove pipe temp will be 325 deg ??
Now when I open that ash draw it is sucking a TON of air and the fire then gets huge so I know its drafting well.
There is a Good flame burning inside but barley any heat coming off the stone ?
I am also BLOWING through 30 - 20 " pieces of Seasoned Oak in a day I am not exaggerating!
I have tried small wood, big wood, Same outcome, I have to keep feeding this every 45 Min or it will just burn out...
Now here is where I am confused I was told when I spent $2,100 for this completely rebuilt stove and it was beautiful looking and rebuilt very well with all new stone glass, and seals.
But he assured me that Soapstone Stoves were far better then metal ones because of the heat retention and radiation.
I have a cheap Century FW300007 Wood stove out in my studio with extremely high ceiling's and I can barely stay in that huge room when that stove is on low even when its 20deg out?
Maybe this can be a clue for an answer as to what's going on..
The Soapstone stove stone temp with a fairly large fire the Top and Stone will be 175 deg but the pipe will be 325 deg.
The Metal stove will be completely opposite, the stove on a VERY low burn will be 375 deg and the pipe ( Also with no Damper ) will only be 180- 200 deg..
I was going to sell this Brand new rebuilt stove on Craig's List for $500 dollars just to get rid of it to buy a cheap metal stove like the Century just to get a working stove that puts off heat but I will see if its something I am doing wrong here first before I take the huge loss!
Is this model stove just a piece of crap or am I doing something totally wrong ?
I can fill the Metal stove before bed and 8 hours later there will still be wood burning when I wake.
With this Soapstone stove I have to Literally put wood in it every hour or within 2 hours it will be out. Sure the stone stays warm for a few hours but a worthless amount of heat..
Please If anyone has any suggestions I would totally appreciate it, I Just cant believe this stove is THAT BAD !
What should the box standard operating temp be so I am not BLOWING through 30 pieces of wood a day ?
This has me completely miffed????
I'm using a Laser thermometer so I am confident the temps I am telling you are accurate.
Does this stove require a Damper ?
I really don't want to waste another $200 dollars on a damper and new Pipe if it is just a Bad Stove to begin with ..
If it is a Damper issue, does it go right above the collar of the stove or in the middle of the pipe?
Like I said any help or suggestions will be totally appreciated as I just am compleatly unsure as to what's going on here..
Thanks guys in advance
Steve K.
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Agreed Steve, copy and paste your post into a new thread so that it gets a better response. And welcome to Hearth.com.
And put the name of your stove in the title, so that folks who know that stove can help...
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