Help deciding on insert- Osburn 2000 or 2400?

[Andy S.]

Looks great - happy heating! I love the full-view door. As an aside, my daughters and wife are coming up to your neck of the woods to do some antiquing this weekend. They are thinking it will be prime-time for fall foliage up there. True?

 

[Renjilj]

Andy, sorry for delay. Had computer problems since Friday. Little late on this but a weird year for foliage (like last year). About 1/3 of the leaves fell without much change at all and the other 2/3 still greenish. This weekend they remaining did start changing into some nice color. Usually by now exploding with color from here to Vt...

 

[Renjilj]

Alright, did 2 small burns this weekend to break-in. Amazing how much heat it put out and held for hours on just a few pieces of the pine pallet wood! Really looking forward to the winter and some good Oak (although oil doesn't seem so bad these days!). Draft was great, no smoke roll-out when door opened. Here are some pics along the way.

Delivered. Had some paint issues from a loose pieces rattling around on the trip.. Removed door and brick and used an appliance hand truck and ramps to get in front door


Chimney top. Added some roxul here as well before sealing up. Ended up with exactly 15' length liner. Fully insulated with block off and top ins. Should be a cosy liner

 

[Renjilj]

The block off plate was so close to the top of the stove (5") made it a LOT of work to connect the liner to the.. Worth it now with the full surround being rocked and insulated but a few choice words getting it all together. I think this will make a difference in heat retention and ultimately performance like you all said. PITA for sure! Left stove sticking out max for most heat transfer possible - heat is the priority over beauty. I did compromise with the boss and got the brushed nickel face to give it a prettier dress.... Happy wife worth $180!

About 2" of clearance in back on L and R. Plenty in front. Rear top about 1" clear and about 5" on bottom. Blower not too bad on noise after some "tuning" to keep the covers from vibrating.

 

[Andy S.]

Andy, sorry for delay.

No worries - they had a great visit and said it was beautiful. Looks like the computer down time was put to good use - looks great!

 

[HatboroPaul]

The block off plate was so close to the top of the stove (5") made it a LOT of work to connect the liner to the.. Worth it now with the full surround being rocked and insulated but a few choice words getting it all together. I think this will make a difference in heat retention and ultimately performance like you all said. PITA for sure! Left stove sticking out max for most heat transfer possible - heat is the priority over beauty. I did compromise with the boss and got the brushed nickel face to give it a prettier dress.... Happy wife worth $180!

About 2" of clearance in back on L and R. Plenty in front. Rear top about 1" clear and about 5" on bottom. Blower not too bad on noise after some "tuning" to keep the covers from vibrating.
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Congrat! I have to laugh because as much as I love my 2000, I do find occasional "Vibration Tuning" is necessary haha.

 

[PaulCT]

I noticed your hearth is level with the floor. I just installed my 2000 last week, and have the same setup. How hot did your floor get? The manual says with a level heath, you need 29" of R2.0 protection in front. I confirmed this with Osburn (they double checked their test reports). Mine wouldn't pass inspection without a pad extending out the 29"

 

[Renjilj]

I noticed your hearth is level with the floor. I just installed my 2000 last week, and have the same setup. How hot did your floor get? The manual says with a level heath, you need 29" of R2.0 protection in front. I confirmed this with Osburn (they double checked their test reports). Mine wouldn't pass inspection without a pad extending out the 29"

PaulCT - Its pretty flush (about 3/4" delta). Cant really say since only did the lower temp, shorter duration break-ins (about 450 for 1-2 hrs) so far and they didnt raise temps on anything really. I am waiting for the back-ordered heat shield before I really get going to be safe. This week is supposed to be back in the 70's daytime so wont need much heat. I burned an open fireplace for 15 years here 5-6x a week and the floor has more burns than Freddy Krueger... If the house (and the dogs) didnt go up from all those, Im not overly worried... Planning to get the ugly black metal floor pad ($80) my local guy has incase someone wants to "stop by". Ins had no issues with the insert. No upcharge, no inspection, no further discussion...

 

[Renjilj]

Congrat! I have to laugh because as much as I love my 2000, I do find occasional "Vibration Tuning" is necessary haha.

Right! Wish they used screws or locking pins to keep everything tight.. Loose sheet metal held in place with drop-in eyelets and "clips", on a squirrel cage blower, really?!

 

[Renjilj]

Out with the old.... $40 in scrap

 

[gregbesia]

Renji- great looking stove, and good job installing it! Keep us posted on its operation.

 

[begreen]

Well done and nice job. Thanks for the visuals. That's a nice install.

 

[dafattkidd]

Great install. You're gonna love it. 2.4 cf will serve you well. One thing to keep in mind. As you burn and reach new high temps, the paint will stink up the place. You should keep the windows open during those burns. Good luck. May your new insert be a blessing to you and your family for many years.

 

[dafattkidd]

A few hints for keeping the house temps a little closer to even:

-We keep electric space heaters in the bedrooms so we can close doors and still have heat.
-If it gets too hot you can turn the fan off. The insert will still give off heat, but not as much.
-No matter the size of the firebox, if you want to bring house temps up and it's mild outside, a small, quick, hot fire will get the job done nicely.
-A small fan on the floor in the farthest part of the house blowing on low towards the stove room will help create a convection loop and bring the heat closer to the desired space.

I know some of that is generic and probably repetitive, I just figured this May be helpful based on your concerns of cooking the living room.

 

[Renjilj]

Well done and nice job. Thanks for the visuals. That's a nice install.

Thanks begreen! Keep you posted as we get going over next few months

 

[Renjilj]

A few hints for keeping the house temps a little closer to even:

-We keep electric space heaters in the bedrooms so we can close doors and still have heat.
-If it gets too hot you can turn the fan off. The insert will still give off heat, but not as much.
-No matter the size of the firebox, if you want to bring house temps up and it's mild outside, a small, quick, hot fire will get the job done nicely.
-A small fan on the floor in the farthest part of the house blowing on low towards the stove room will help create a convection loop and bring the heat closer to the desired space.

I know some of that is generic and probably repetitive, I just figured this May be helpful based on your concerns of cooking the living room.

I tried the fan on floor opposite end thing on the 2nd burn and it seemed to work pretty well. The air turbidity really helped to balance out hot/cold spots. I was also pleased to see the temp in the far end (90 degrees down hallway) go up 4 degrees without any extra effort. It hasn't been cold yet, but was encouraging. I think with a fan at that end also we might just do alright. Thanks for all the tips!

 

[Renjilj]

OK, so I know wasnt real cold last night, and a newbie, but...

Was around 45 out, raining and 20-30 MPH winds with this Nor'easter thing going on. Started a small fire around 7 with only the balance of the pallet wood and a few 2-3" rounds. Maybe 1/2 box full loosley? Went to bed around 11 with 1/2 burnt and about 1/2 deep char/coal'ish. Stove temp about 500 blower on 30%. Main house up to 78 and far end up from 67 to 72 (with 2 fans doing the convection loop thing). Woke up this AM and fan on stove was still running! Not a speck of coals I could see, but enough heat in stove to keep fan running. House at 72 still. Outside low 40's and still raining. I suspect the insulating/Durarock set-up makes a huge difference in keeping the stove heat in. Wish I had a before and after comparison, but this was impressive to me?

 

[Heddonbaits]

OK, so I know wasnt real cold last night, and a newbie, but...

Was around 45 out, raining and 20-30 MPH winds with this Nor'easter thing going on. Started a small fire around 7 with only the balance of the pallet wood and a few 2-3" rounds. Maybe 1/2 box full loosley? Went to bed around 11 with 1/2 burnt and about 1/2 deep char/coal'ish. Stove temp about 500 blower on 30%. Main house up to 78 and far end up from 67 to 72 (with 2 fans doing the convection loop thing). Woke up this AM and fan on stove was still running! Not a speck of coals I could see, but enough heat in stove to keep fan running. House at 72 still. Outside low 40's and still raining. I suspect the insulating/Durarock set-up makes a huge difference in keeping the stove heat in. Wish I had a before and after comparison, but this was impressive to me?

Hello
I am new and been lurking here for a bit. I am also going to look at this set up.
Have you figured the fan thing out?
How do you think bigger would have been?
Thanks

 

[Renjilj]

Hello
I am new and been lurking here for a bit. I am also going to look at this set up.
Have you figured the fan thing out?
How do you think bigger would have been?
Thanks

Welcome! This was a great place for info when I was getting started. Lots of knowledge here and everyone helpful.

The fan thing works very well actually. It is at the far end of a hallway blowing (on the ground slightly angled down) toward the warm end of the hall (is the larger, open end of the house with the stove). Blowing cold air towards warm was more effective than warm to cold for me. The fan can be small. Mine is 12-15" round and runs on low but bigger then needs to be. What I had. Without it, the far end of house gets pretty cool. With it, maintains about 4-8 degrees less then main house.

Size is good for all but the coldest days (0-15F). When they come one after another, then the house starts to cool down before coals have burned down enough for a good stuffing. Still getting heat, but struggles a little to keep up. Even then, temps in main house never drop below 70 and far end about 62 so not a big complaint. We just like it warm. I can easily get 8 hrs of heat and relights as long as 10-12 hrs. 20-35F is sweet spot for my layout and footage. Had I the clearance, I would have gone with the 2400. Extra horsepower when you need it!

No complaints at all. Great stove and amazing heat. Burned about 3.5 cord last year and it was coldest winter I remember. Looks like your in NC? so 2000 is prob plenty. Warmer then CT. You can make a small fire during shoulder seasons if you need to. Wouldn't go smaller if you want 8 hr or more between reloads