Introduce myself (Chimney Liners)

[theheatelement]

I would like to introduce myself, my name is Rainer and I am the operating manager over MagnaFlex Industries. We offer a great product and service and would like to let you guys know that if you have any questions you can feel free to PM me and I will get right back to you.

You can visit our website at (broken link removed) if you have any questions, we also do custom work in sheetmetal if anyone needs anything done. We have access to some great machines including a cnc turret and our new cnc laser.

 

[begreen]

Welcome aboard Rainer. Good to have a liner specialist on the forum.

 

[BrotherBart]

Well now how is that for timing. I was looking at your site last night trying to determine how I find a distributor for your liners.

 

[theheatelement]

Well now how is that for timing. I was looking at your site last night trying to determine how I find a distributor for your liners.

I hope you enjoy the site, I took over the operations in January and we have had a host of changes since then. External appearances like our site was the first update but more importantly was striving to make a product that everyone can enjoy. I think the only downfall to this business is the volatile market of stainless steel but I am hoping that as of this month it will have a downturn again. Stainless is like the gas market and were like a gas station... price of stainless goes up and the only person that wins is the steel mill everyone else has to look at decreasing margins and increasing efficiencies.

If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask, I will be frequenting the forum every now and then.

 

[wg_bent]

I'm curious. What are flexible Aluminum liners for?

 

[webbie]

Gas Appliances can use flex aluminum. In fact, Class B pipe (gas vent) uses aluminum for the inside layer.

Magna forgot to mention that the stockholders also win when the price of commodities goes up! As long as China and the rest of the world are willing to pay more for ss, and the cost of our currency continues to fall, the prices will stay high. In fact, I expect the prices to stay high forever (relatively high, anyway)..... the metals in ss - nickel, chromnium, titanium, etc. are all really valuable these days.

 

[wahoowad]

Rainer,

do you have any pictures you could post of how a customer would connect a horizontal stovepipe coming out the back of their wood stove to the liner coming down a chimney? I just don't understand how that transition works. I have some tight clearances to work with so I really want to see it and think through my installation.

Thanks

 

[theheatelement]

You want to use a base tee... (broken link removed to http://www.discountstove.com/thruwallkit.htm) I just grabbed the link to the left to show you what it looks like, this connects to your appliance and to the chimney liner.

Rainer,

do you have any pictures you could post of how a customer would connect a horizontal stovepipe coming out the back of their wood stove to the liner coming down a chimney? I just don't understand how that transition works. I have some tight clearances to work with so I really want to see it and think through my installation.

Thanks

 

[wahoowad]

Yeah....I have a tee on it already. It is a tee that accepts my 6" horizontal stove pip and connects to an 8" metal chimney. It just doesn't seem right to think I can drop a 6" liner down, replace my 6"/8" tee with a 6"/6" tee and connect the tee directly to the liner.. I always assumed there was some kind of adapter or something. I'm looking to buy a liner kit but didn't want to buy it first then jerry rig it to fit my particular installation. Still not sure how this works so I just end up procrastinating it....

 

[theheatelement]

well our liners connect to the base tee via a DSC (deluxe sleeve connector) the DSC couples both sides of the liner and then slides snuggly into the base tee. It sounds like you might have a miss match of components, their are several ways to correct this many companies including mine can build a 6/8 reducer increaser. If this sounds like the issue just let me know.

 

[Gooserider]

I would like to introduce myself, my name is Rainer and I am the operating manager over MagnaFlex Industries. We offer a great product and service and would like to let you guys know that if you have any questions you can feel free to PM me and I will get right back to you.

You can visit our website at (broken link removed) if you have any questions, we also do custom work in sheetmetal if anyone needs anything done. We have access to some great machines including a cnc turret and our new cnc laser.

Welcome to the forums, but I hate to tell you that your website doesn't answer many of my questions :long: Either it is badly broken, or you have engaged in discriminatory programming practices, as it FAILS to work in either of the browsers that I am using - Opera 9.22 or Konqueror 3.5.5, both running on Gentoo Linux, under the KDE 3.5.5 desktop environment.

Under Opera, I get a grey rectangular blob on my screen, under Konqeror I get a blank white page - neither is particularly informative. Please remember that the world does NOT run under Micro$oft software, there are other browsers and operating systems out in the world besides Broken Windows and Internet Exploder... Coding to W3C standards should give you results that are useable on all browsers.

Gooserider

 

[wahoowad]

Goose - your browser and O/S combination probably represents less than 0.5% of all internet users. As a businessman I bet Rainer is feeling pretty good about offering a website that works on the vast majority of browsers. He no more can cater to the extreme minority of whacky browser users than he can provide EVERY product to EVERY special situation. That said, I was hoping for a bit more informative info myself as an active shopper.

 

[kwburn]

As someone who tried and eventually gave up on running a website for my own small business I had several years back, any website is a constant battle to update and maintain. It can easily require full time staff and resources that a well managed business may not have yet. So sometimes you need to start with a good foundation and build up from there which it sounds like may be the case here. Good product and customer service first then the rest will follow.

The tone taken about his website not supporting those two browsers was a bit harsh and could have been worded in a much better way.

 

[elkimmeg]

Mind if you answer questions that Cath posted about her installation.

BTW welcome aboard

 

[stoveguy2esw]

welcome aboard rainer,
good to have a vent guy in here , (venting is common! ) be nice to have the venting aspect covered by an industry rep. look forward to working with ya

mike ESW

 

[Corie]

Me too!

 

[theheatelement]

We just developed our new website and we hope that the vast majority of people will enjoy it. For the last 10 years our webpage was a basic foundation from microsoft frontpage. Our new website which was fairly costly for most good size companies now uses flash imagery and hopefully well make it easier for our customers to see our product and see what we are capable of. Thanks everyone for the welcoming if you have any questions please feel free to ask...

 

[BrotherBart]

Good to have you aboard Ranier. Since you appear to only sell to the trade and don't have a DIY distribution channel you might want to also join up with the industry only part of this site.

 

[theheatelement]

My IT guy asked me to see if you have dowloaded macromedia 8. He says that you probably don't have the flash plug in installed.

I would like to introduce myself, my name is Rainer and I am the operating manager over MagnaFlex Industries. We offer a great product and service and would like to let you guys know that if you have any questions you can feel free to PM me and I will get right back to you.

You can visit our website at (broken link removed) if you have any questions, we also do custom work in sheetmetal if anyone needs anything done. We have access to some great machines including a cnc turret and our new cnc laser.

Welcome to the forums, but I hate to tell you that your website doesn't answer many of my questions :long: Either it is badly broken, or you have engaged in discriminatory programming practices, as it FAILS to work in either of the browsers that I am using - Opera 9.22 or Konqueror 3.5.5, both running on Gentoo Linux, under the KDE 3.5.5 desktop environment.

Under Opera, I get a grey rectangular blob on my screen, under Konqeror I get a blank white page - neither is particularly informative. Please remember that the world does NOT run under Micro$oft software, there are other browsers and operating systems out in the world besides Broken Windows and Internet Exploder... Coding to W3C standards should give you results that are useable on all browsers.

Gooserider

 

[TMonter]

Does Magnaflex sell direct or do you have a list of US vendors?

 

[Gooserider]

My IT guy asked me to see if you have dowloaded macromedia 8. He says that you probably don't have the flash plug in installed.

I would like to introduce myself, my name is Rainer and I am the operating manager over MagnaFlex Industries. We offer a great product and service and would like to let you guys know that if you have any questions you can feel free to PM me and I will get right back to you.

You can visit our website at (broken link removed) if you have any questions, we also do custom work in sheetmetal if anyone needs anything done. We have access to some great machines including a cnc turret and our new cnc laser.

Welcome to the forums, but I hate to tell you that your website doesn't answer many of my questions :long: Either it is badly broken, or you have engaged in discriminatory programming practices, as it FAILS to work in either of the browsers that I am using - Opera 9.22 or Konqueror 3.5.5, both running on Gentoo Linux, under the KDE 3.5.5 desktop environment.

Under Opera, I get a grey rectangular blob on my screen, under Konqeror I get a blank white page - neither is particularly informative. Please remember that the world does NOT run under Micro$oft software, there are other browsers and operating systems out in the world besides Broken Windows and Internet Exploder... Coding to W3C standards should give you results that are useable on all browsers.

Gooserider

I have downloaded Flash Nine (Macromedia doesn't make a Flash 8 driver for Linux), and it doesn't install properly, mostly I haven't taken the time to futz around with it - in part because I don't like running proprietary software (Opera is about the only proprietary thing I use) and in part because I'm waiting for GNASH (The Open Source GNU project to reverse engineer the Flash protocol and produce an open driver for it...) to reach a mature point.

I know that Flash is the latest "Cool Thing" but it does have drawbacks - it breaks some browsers, it isn't friendly to those folks on dialup connections (It is a bandwidth hog) and it is also hard for the visually impaired (who use speech card browsers) to deal with. What might be a better option is to have the main part of your content in standard W3C compliant HTML with the flash content in insert frames so that you don't have to be running particular "latest and greatest" software / hardware to view the site.

My girlfriend Mary-Anne, who is a proffesional S/W engineer (One notch below an architect) actually considers the proper test browser to be LYNX - which is one of the original Text based browsers - Her opinion is that a website should be able to deliver a useable experience in Lynx - obviously without pictures and graphics - if it is done well.

(BTW, no offense intended by the earlier comments - I just get bothered by sites that don't want to work with platforms that are minority, but standards compliant. FWIW, I work with better than 99% of the websites out there which I have visited...)

Gooserider

 

[theheatelement]

Just curious can you visit these sites

http://www.duravent.com/
http://www.donpark.com/
http://www.novaflex.com/ (z-flex)


These are some of the biggest names in the business and I just want to see if your browser will accept any of these.

 

[BrotherBart]

First I have heard of Don Park, interesting a Canadian company whose stainless liner isn't ULC approved, but I love their tee.

 

[theheatelement]

Remember UL testing is simply one company other stringent testing is done by http://www.intertek-etlsemko.com/portal/page/cust_portal/ITK_PGR/SELECT_YOUR_IND_PG/HVAC_PG and they are just as good, UL was simply the first large company in the industry... It's just as if you ask a coworker to Xerox you a copy, although you have a Hewlitt packard copier...

 

[BrotherBart]

Remember UL testing is simply one company other stringent testing is done by http://www.intertek-etlsemko.com/portal/page/cust_portal/ITK_PGR/SELECT_YOUR_IND_PG/HVAC_PG and they are just as good, UL was simply the first large company in the industry... It's just as if you ask a coworker to Xerox you a copy, although you have a Hewlitt packard copier...

Warnock Hersey (Intertek), OMNI et. al. test and certify to the UL standards and maintain the listings. What I was saying is that none of them have run the Xerox machine for Don Park's stainless liner pipe. The aluminum, yes, the stainless no.

But I still love the tee with a cap.