Are you saying that is acceptable casualties, or do you just like converting?1/2 of 1% of US employment.
This guy would make more money at his new job...
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I am suing. They shouldn't have released that. I was in a bad mood that day.
If we want to get philosophical we also have to address the bigger problem. The population keeps growing while more and more labor is eliminated by technology and automation.
No opinion about Putin in Ukraine?[
Sorry, I must have missed the memo. I didn't realize that Canada or any of it's inhabitants had any say so what so ever in the policy's of the U.S. This aint a personal bash but, just sayin.
Stop with the right/left stuff or this thread is canned. We're all in this together (as the famous Canadian said). So far it has been a good, civil discussion. Let's keep it that way.For some reason, you think there will be no consequences to just raising wages higher. Even the govt studies admit it will cause approx 500,000 jobs lost. Granted, I have slim confidence in govt to know anything,, but you lefties seem to love govt,,so why don't you believe them on this?
I steered away from a political point of view on this discussion I believe. If what I have typed here was taken that way then so be it. I have other places to voice my political beliefs. When I do so it is a face to face debate not a blown out of proportion internet match of the mindless. Trying to state the obvious to the oblivious is getting tiresome any ways. I will resign myself to sitting in my ivory tower and ordering my serfs to do my bidding since they will soon be able to afford to take over the monetary risks involved in the day to day operation of a small business. Good day Gentlemen.No opinion about Putin in Ukraine?
Stop with the right/left stuff or this thread is canned. We're all in this together (as the famous Canadian said). So far it has been a good, civil discussion. Let's keep it that way.
Scavenge them for spare parts.So what to we do with everyone else?
All from the bottom rungs. All upper rungs would decrease. The money has to come from "somewhere"You neglected to mention that overall US income would increase. Mostly at the bottom rungs. From the same CBO analysis.
so, if they raise the minimum wage to 15, what is really going to change? (snip) Around here most fast foods pay more than minimum now
All from the bottom rungs. All upper rungs would decrease. The money has to come from "somewhere"
In all wealth redistribution plans, someone gives up money when another takes it.
I believe the lower rung is a starting point,,, not a career. It should have min wage so there is an incentive to step up to the next rung,,,,NOT a living wage. I do not believe a person should be able to make a living on min wage.
Also, that study is done on a proposed increase to $10. How many jobs would be lost if it was $15 as the OP is suggesting! The economy would be devastated! Job loss would be enormous! I believe it would break the economy.
What would happen at your company if you had to raise wages over 50%? No effect?
Mcdonalds in ohio makes $7.95-$9 per hr(per mcdonalds employment ad). To go to 15 an hour would almost DOUBLE the wages.
What would happen at your company if you had to double wages? Still no effect?
no, it would mean that thousands of small companies would have to increase the cost of their products to cover those new expenses, so the income gained would at the same time, be lost to increased prices. Called inflation. Costs are passed on to the consumer.It would mean a lot more money right back into the system buying the products and services you sell. People at the bottom spend every dollar they make and save almost nothing.
What would happen at your company if you had to raise wages over 50%? No effect?
Mcdonalds in ohio makes $7.95-$9 per hr(per mcdonalds employment ad). To go to 15 an hour would almost DOUBLE the wages.
What would happen at your company if you had to double wages? Still no effect?
Thin about it, there are a LOT of people out there who dont have the skills or education for much more than basic manual labor. If we dont pay them a living wage are they going to be living in a cardboard box out in the street? Probably not, they will be living in govt subsidised housing and buying food with govt subsidized EBT cards and getting free health care at the ER because they cant pay the bill. All of which get paid for by the rest of us through taxes and insurance premiums.
I agreeBut what the heck do I know. I'm just a bleeding heart sap.
no, it would mean that thousands of small companies would have to increase the cost of their products to cover those new expenses, so the income gained would at the same time, be lost to increased prices. Called inflation. Costs are passed on to the consumer.
That would not happen to all of them,,,,some of them would go down in income, because their job would not exist anymore due to companies shutting down. I read in an earlier post that FC thinks that should happen. If a company cannot make money because of this increase in costs,,, they should go out of business. That sure solves it. I know people that prefer the low wages, rather then no wages.
I also have opinions on some of these people who you claim "spend it all" You are correct, I have seen it. Down at the bar,,buying beer and cigs,,,lottery tickets,,the list goes on and on. I have sat at the bar and listened to the whining about how they can't pay their bills,,,then they buy another beer. I have seen, and hired people who whine they can not pay their bills,,then have to fire them because they fail to show up every day at work. I offer a job,,,but require them to work. Not all people at the bottom are in this group, but a large percentage are.
The people with drive and ambition,, are just in the bottom group for a short time. Then they advance. The ones who stay there,,,are playing on your bleeding heart, so you will pay them, or give them, enough money and social programs so they are not required to work hard and advance. They make welfare a career. We now see 2nd and 3rd generation "welfare careers" Parents are showing their children how to do it.
you are missing the point. I'm glad you pay good wages for good skills. Everyone is not in the same industry as you, and cannot pay those high wages.again I pay a living wage now, with retirement and healthcare.
A LOT of lazy people. Anyone can learn a skill or get an education. We already have those programs in place. If they do not work and do their part to get ahead,,,we should not give them increases in pay for that,,they will have to be satisfied with the crumbs since that is all they will work for.
They get all this free stuff because we give it to them! If it was not available,,,they would have to work for it!
I agree
ok, I give up on you,,,you have no idea what wages are out here.1) most small companies are paying better than mega corps
you are missing the point. I'm glad you pay good wages for good skills. Everyone is not in the same industry as you, and cannot pay those high wages.
There are companies that would have to double the wages to meet $15. What if you had to? Just pretend,,,,,You are telling me it would not effect your company?
Neither, The pimp is the middle man,the john is the end user or customer. Must be the hooker. Shes got the raw materials.Who is the job creator. The pimp or the john?
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