little help with walls and floor around stove

[Coachgeo]

Pier and beam floor
standard wall w/16" studs and insulation.

Im remodelling (on a poor mans budget) the area the stove is being installed

Stove- Tiny Drolet Pyropak/Rocket. (mine is rocket) on OEM legs

Im shooting for as close to walls as I can get in this stove cause the room is tiny as it is and the further this heater sticks out...... the more its going to attempt to amputate my toes as I walk by etc.

In walk thru of Lowes today I discovered Cement board....... yeah..... Im a novice.

This material seems like it will save me bundle on hearth and walls. Won't add any Fuax rock or anything for a few years. Just the cement board. Open to suggestions on another product though.

Will be one wall only to deal with and it will be behind it or beside it. Can't decide which way to face the door of the stove yet. I could tear wall down to studs then cement board or leave 1/2" sheet rock and put cement board over it?

Stove pipe (not purchased yet) from stove is going into SS lined former oil stove cement block chimney. Hole in Chimney the thimble is going into is only 7" from only wall and 5" from ceiling. Yep the hole is on the side of the chimney and not the front. Should that be cement board too on this area of ceiling aswell? I actually plan to vault the ceiling at some point though.

Top of stove will be approx 4' from ceiling but again eventually....... vaulted ceiling above it.

What do you suggest? How thick of cement board on wall and floor as a hearth pad. How much. How big around the stove do you reccomend be cement board/ hearth. Also how thick for each..... Construction suggestions?

Please advise. Ive read the manual which is generic for a whole line of stoves so it is confusing as hell for any particular one. I also searched in here and read some threads but often they were was mostly a tissy fit between some folk and someone else so not a ton discernable info. If anyone know of a thread or two that answer my questions please point them out so no one needs to take time to repeat themselves.

Thanx in advance.

 

[begreen]

You'll need to honor the stove requirements as defined in the stove manual. That is the guiding document here. What part is in question?

 

[fossil]

Yup, the particular stove manufacturer and model define the requirements for safe installation. Can you describe the appliance and the intended location for us?

 

[Coachgeo]

Yup, the particular stove manufacturer and model define the requirements for safe installation. Can you describe the appliance and the intended location for us?

Stove name and Model is in the above original post. AKA Drolet Rocket Stove.

. Basic info on the Rocket (broken link removed to http://www.drolet.ca/en/products/wood/rocket) HINT.

the rocket is the same as the Pyropak but with steel door instead of glass. They dont say that but it is. It has the SS secondary burn system same as Pyropak version. This is why I bought this unit.

. Basic info on the Pyropak (broken link removed to http://www.drolet.ca/en/products/wood/pyropak)

. Manual Rocket (broken link removed to http://www.drolet.ca/upload/documents/manuels/drolet/45521A_27-03-2012.pdf)

As I said to me manual reads as a generic one (one manual for all their stoves) and for a person with no base knowledge on wood stoves..... it confuses the hell out of me. It has a conversion charts to attempt to explain Generically about how to install a specific stove. Not knowing what Im looking at....... It reads a bit gibberishy to me.

Application......... ahhhhhhh...... to heat the house (650sq feet) when Im home which is mostlyh late night. I work several jobs. Also the two partial days I don't work. Electric baseboard when Im not home set at I dont know....... 45-50 degree so no pipes freeze?

 

[begreen]

The clearances state that from the back of the stove to the wall it must be at least 16". According to the manual you can reduce this clearance by 50 to 67% depending on the wall shielding. If you want to go for the maximum rear wall clearance reduction you would need to mount the cement board on one inch spacers off the wall. The cement board would need to be open at the bottom, 1-3" above the hearth and open at the top so that air can freely flow behind it. An easy way to achieve the 1" spacing is to cut 3" wide strips from the end of the cement board and screw them doubled up to the studs as firring strips.

https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/articles/stove_wall_clear

 

[Coachgeo]

Much Thanx. !! Off to work but will read link. THANKYOU again

For bugs, rodent control though....... how does this sound, keep existing Drywall. Add then the 1" spacing as described on top of that then cement board. How far up and out of the area surrounding the heater box do you have to do this? How thick cement board....... 1" , 1/4", 1/2"

What about the clearances of the stove pipe from wall and existing ceiling where it is going into the chimney?

Floor? 1/4" cement board? 1/2? How big an area?

 

[begreen]

Yes, keep the existing wall intact. If double wall connector pipe the clearances are 6" if single wall then it's 18" but that can be reduced to 6" by carrying the wall shield up to within 1" of the ceiling or by putting pipe shields on the pipe. The stove manual says how high to go above the top of the stove and answer the size of the hearth required. I'm off to work too.

 

[Coachgeo]

Yes, keep the existing wall intact. ....

Still wrapping all this thru my head. sorry it is a thick skull. Anyway..... For my bathroom I'ld considered what a local bar with a rustic wood interior did...... Corrugated steel roof panels on the walls of the bathroom. Almost a stainless sheen to it. Not sure where they found the shiny stuff. Anyway...... So it hit me after reading further in the info about using sheet metal over combustible wall as a way to tuck wood stove closer to walls....... put Corrugated roof panel on this wall too.

What do you think? The manual calls for 1" spacing with non combustible (dry wall strip has been suggested). Corrugated roof panel would be easy to work with and fits the rustic motif Im shooting for. Is the thickness enough?......... manual calls for 0.024 (0.61mm). Metal is sold by gauge not thickness so no clue what gauge is what thickness?

About cement board as hearth above wood floor. How thick of cement board?

 

[begreen]

Yes. that should work. Just mount it on 1" spacers with a 1" to 3" gap off the floor and open at the top. The 1" spacers can be made by chopping up some 3/8" copper pipe.

 

[Coachgeo]

Yes. that should work. Just mount it on 1" spacers with a 1" to 3" gap off the floor and open at the top. The 1" spacers can be made by chopping up some 3/8" copper pipe.

Thanx...... what about thickness of cement board on the floor? 1/4" 1/2" 1"? The manual does not say much....... only x and y dimensions and not thickness

 

[begreen]

It looks like the stove just needs ember protection. 1/2" cement board with 2" squares of 1/8" metal where the legs touch down would work. Or the cement board could be covered with sheet metal or tile.

 

[Coachgeo]

It looks like the stove just needs ember protection. 1/2" cement board with 2" squares of 1/8" metal where the legs touch down would work. Or the cement board could be covered with sheet metal or tile.

Thanx. I was thinking cement board and 4 pieces of 4" square tile so the legs done gouge the board.

 

[begreen]

Should work. I'd go 1/2" cement board.