lopi cape cod break in-fires

[kayakfisher]

morning guys and gals,
What is the best way to do the break-in fires on a cape cod . At the dealer they said to start one fire bring it to 150* let cool,second fire to 250* let cool,third fire 350* let cool. By cool, what temp and would i go by flue or stove top temp

thanks chris

 

[begreen]

Interesting to note that there's no break-in info in the manual, except for a note about the paint baking in. Still it will be good to do a couple small fires to drive moisture out of the firebrick and cement. Use the stove top temp as a guide. You don't need to wait for the stove to go stone cold before doing the second fire. If you can put your hand comfortably on the stove top that is cool enough.

You probably have read this here, but just in case not, never use the ash pan door as a start up air source. If necessary leave the front door ajar a little for extra startup air.

 

[webby3650]

It's very odd that the manual doesn't state anything about breaking it in. The Leyden doesn't mention it either.
It's always a good idea with a cast stove though.
Just take it slow, don't worry too much with exact temps either. Jotul is the most detailed in their manual, 200, let it cool to room temp. 300, let cool. 400, let it cool and your done. Let each fire maintain that temp for 1 hour.

 

[kayakfisher]

ok sounds good, yea i when by the stove top. The service tech told me to do that to set the mortar

 

[Christopix]

It's very odd that the manual doesn't state anything about breaking it in. The Leyden doesn't mention it either.
It's always a good idea with a cast stove though.
Just take it slow, don't worry too much with exact temps either. Jotul is the most detailed in their manual, 200, let it cool to room temp. 300, let cool. 400, let it cool and your done. Let each fire maintain that temp for 1 hour.

Total newbie question here: With regard to cast iron stoves and break in, How on earth do you control a burn to a specific temp such as 200, then 300, then 400? With my Endeavor, while I have significantly more control over the fire than I did with my old All-Nighter, there is no way I can get a controlled burn for an hour at that low of a temp - even by making very small fires. How do you do this?

 

[Christopix]

Regarding the Cape Cod and other Hybrids: the cast iron is only a shell around steel right?

 

[begreen]

Total newbie question here: With regard to cast iron stoves and break in, How on earth do you control a burn to a specific temp such as 200, then 300, then 400? With my Endeavor, while I have significantly more control over the fire than I did with my old All-Nighter, there is no way I can get a controlled burn for an hour at that low of a temp - even by making very small fires. How do you do this?

You don't. The temps are just an approximate guide. Low temp fires are pretty easy to control by using just a little fuel and letting it burn out.

 

[Christopix]

You don't. The temps are just an approximate guide. Low temp fires are pretty easy to control by using just a little fuel and letting it burn out.

Oh! That makes sense. Thank you!

 

[kayakfisher]

yea that's is what i am going right now on my last one now. what is a good temp to close the bypass to get the cat going

 

[Christopix]

Please DO post some pictures when you get all settled with your Cape Cod. I'm interested in that stove! I might let them work things out for another couple of years while my Endeavor is still with in EPA regs.

 

[sticks]

Regarding the Cape Cod and other Hybrids: the cast iron is only a shell around steel right?

The cape cod is all cast iron. The hybrid term for wood stoves isrefering to the combustion system.

 

[kayakfisher]

here is she running
question on temp, my stove top temp in reading 300 by my flue is reading 575. i know the manual says to put it on the stove top, but if the stove top get up to 450 or so i am thinking the flue will be way over 700, not good from what the manual says about overheating
What do u guys think?????????
is my set up of my thermometer ok or should i change the placement

 

[webby3650]

Since it has a convection top, your stove top reading will low. Just because the stove gets hotter, doesn't mean the pipe will keep getting hotter. I think your fine.

 

[webby3650]

You will have some incredible fires to look forward too! It has an impressive fire view!

 

[Christopix]

You will have some incredible fires to look forward too! It has an impressive fire view!

Wow! Is that the andiron glowing?

 

[Christopix]

here is she running View attachment 124627 View attachment 124629
question on temp, my stove top temp in reading 300 by my flue is reading 575. i know the manual says to put it on the stove top, but if the stove top get up to 450 or so i am thinking the flue will be way over 700, not good from what the manual says about overheating
What do u guys think?????????
is my set up of my thermometer ok or should i change the placement
View attachment 124628

Beautiful stove! Thanks for posting!

 

[webby3650]

Wow! Is that the andiron glowing?

Yes, they will glow.

 

[Chimney Smoke]

575 is pretty hot for a single wall magnetic thermometer. I don't like it when mine gets over 450.

 

[kayakfisher]

^chimney smoke^ It is double wall pipe with a probe in the flue.
Questions I have been running since this Sunday, i have been keeping the flue temp around 600. Is that too hot and if not what should it be at??? just feels like it should be putting out my heat.
webby3650 At what temp would you run your stove at?? and what temp made the andiron glow?????

 

[kayakfisher]

Anyone???????

 

[Christopix]

^chimney smoke^ It is double wall pipe with a probe in the flue.
Questions I have been running since this Sunday, i have been keeping the flue temp around 600. Is that too hot and if not what should it be at??? just feels like it should be putting out my heat.
webby3650 At what temp would you run your stove at?? and what temp made the andiron glow?????

I'm curious about responses to your question too. I'm posting with hopes that your thread will make it back to the top of the list.

 

[Chimney Smoke]

I have no experience with a probe but a general rule of thumb for single wall magnetic is that internal temp is roughly 1.5 - 2 times the outside measured temp. A probe reading of 600 that close to the stove top actually sounds a little low. I regularly run with my stove top at 550-650 and my magnetic flue gauge at 350 18" above the stove.

 

[kayakfisher]

At this point I'm going to put the stove top temperature gage right by the flue like it says in the manual and I am going to see what the flue temperature gets up to. Is a flue temp of 1000 bad????

 

[Christopix]

At this point I'm going to put the stove top temperature gage right by the flue like it says in the manual and I am going to see what the flue temperature gets up to. Is a flue temp of 1000 bad????

In just ball parking here but if the general consensus is that flue temps are doubled for a said reading, 1000 degrees is on the middle-high end or normal. Breaking this down a little as it would be in my case: My flue temps (single wall) get to 450 on the Rutland gage regularly which would mean approximately 900 internal temps following the guide above. Mind you, these temps are not or the entire burn.

Are your readings of 1000 for a long duration of the burn?

 

[kayakfisher]

No I've never got up to 1000° pretty much I ran it at around 750 flue and last night as a test and that makes the stovetop around 450. The heat output has definitely improved