Mt Vernon AE

[SnowZilla]

Okay, This one got me interested in. due to being able to burn Black Oil Sunflower seeds or wood pellets or corn and WHEAT. but can anyone tell me if $4800 is a good price?

Here the options

MtVernon AE ( of course )

Realistic log Set Options

Willow or Sienna Bronze baked enamel finish( not sure which one yet )

cast iron warming shelves add ons

I think thats about it for now ( I will double checked the catalog for options, etc to make sure I didn't miss any will add to the list if I do miss something )

I keep hearing this is a great Stove ( they had some irks at the beginning based on my researches but it looks like they have it ironed out by now ) So $4800 for all of above is a good price? or I could do little bit better than that? any comments, any suggestions, etc FEEL FREE TO POST! looking to get it done by this Oct.

BTW I have been checking out Harman P68 with Hopper Extension and some other options as well for about $3600.

 

[smoke show]

log set,enamel finish,warming shelves thats alot of accessories. does $4800 include install? I'm guessing not because you didnt mention it.
Seems a little high. I paid $4300-4400 installed with no accessories and 26' of 4" selkirk direct temp vertically installed. Included 44x44" hearth
pad and 1/2 ton pellets.

 

[smoke show]

oh yeah it's an awesome stove. set it and forget it. programmable thermo can't be beat. just fill as needed and clean routinely. and it's biomass, depending on your locale corn is an afforable alternative for me.

 

[SnowZilla]

Thanks for quick reply. No it doesn't include the labor, or 5% sales tax. and Hearth would be extra $150.

and can you mix wood pellets / quality clean corn ? like 70/30 ratio or 80/20 , etc ?

 

[smoke show]

absolutely, sometimes if the ratio is higher you have to use the corn setting

 

[eric_s]

Not sure how much those accessories are worth, but paid a lot less (like $2k less) than that last summer when I bought mine.
It is a great stove.

and I bought black so that's a few hundred I think.

 

[SnowZilla]

Not sure how much those accessories are worth, but paid a lot less (like $2k less) than that last summer when I bought mine.
It is a great stove.

and I bought black so that's a few hundred I think.

Interesting, WOW 2K less overall? Good thing I am in no rush to get it. I will keep getting quotes, etc. so you got black enamel baked option for only $300 more right? same pricing for other colors baked options right? I like all except the dark one that looks too much of "brownish" dark style. I think its called Magony

 

[eric_s]

I paid $3300 last year just before the august price increase. That included pipe (simpson pellet vent pro) and install. I think it broke down to $2800 stove plus $500 install material and labor.

 

[SnowZilla]

I paid $3300 last year just before the august price increase. That included pipe (simpson pellet vent pro) and install. I think it broke down to $2800 stove plus $500 install material and labor.

Thats fanastic price!! for $3300 for all I can get Englander but I prefer Quadrafire or Harman due to their longer warranty program overall that and some of Englander models only holds 50 pounds while MtVernon holds 81.

 

[smoke show]

I paid $3415 for stove only.

 

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I think I paid like 4200 last year with pad and pipe, but fyi ditch the log set

 

[SnowZilla]

I think I paid like 4200 last year with pad and pipe, but fyi ditch the log set

Whys that? or did you mean its looks pretty nice with flames going on but once its not being in used and its gonna have that "hologram" style on the glass clearly shows it, so overall its better off to have plain glass panels thru the summer, etc is that why u think I should ditch the log set options?

 

[kilbury]

Here's what we sell it for: Mt Vernon-$3899, log set-$102, warming shelves-301=$4302+ the great state of NY tax. Keep in mind that each dealer sets there own prices, but we sell at MSRP. I agree on the logs, don't bother with them. They are very fragile and tend to fall apart unless your very careful with them. We get $350+pipe for install, just so you have an idea.

 

[rona]

I had a AE back when they first came out and they did have problems but they have solved most of them. I think there is still a issue with igniters failing early. It seems they can't get that fixed. The igniter usually won't make two seasons.
The main drawback I seen with this stove is it has to shut off, cool down, then dump the pot before it can restart and get going again. That down time cools the house off. Maybe that doesn't bother a lot of situations but if you are figuring on getting 70,000 BTU out of it 24-7 you will be very disappointed.
Another bad thing is if you are burning corn you have to be there to dump the ash pan twice a day. In other words you can't be gone for a weekend and expect it to run itself. The ash pan is to small
You are also paying way to much for that stove.
I think you will be a lot more satisfied with the Harman. They are simpler and parts are cheaper when you need them.
The AE is a great concept but you are dependent on the wall controll and the computer board and if something goes wrong with either one you end up calling the dealer and replacing them. Big bucks after warranty is over. It does have a quiet convection fan.
I replaced the AE with a new Bixby I bought on E-Bay for 1500.00 It sold for 4000.00 with a full warranty but you can buy a lot of parts for the difference in price. It delivers a honest 50,000 BTU 24-7. I can dump the ash bucket while the stove is running, and using a thermostat I have ran this stove 28 days straight without shutting down for real cleaning.
The thing is you have to be a little mechanical minder to go into a deal like this. Most people buying a biomass stove learn pretty fast that they are better off learning everything they can in order to keep service calls at a minimum.

 

[smoke show]

mine don't need to cool down to dump the ash. It actually dumps hot embers in the pan.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Bought mine 3 yrs ago and it was about $3600 or something with piping to go straight up a 2 story chimney (that's a lot of pipe!)

No problems with the cycling and auto cleaning function. Would would one prefer to manually clear out clinkers.

In a house with half decent insulation I don't understand how a 15 min cycle every now and again would hurt anything.

Love the stove, burning 4 tons a year for 3 years now ... no problems.

Skip the log set ... or if you want one buy mine for half off.

 

[gblaue]

I paid $3300 last year just before the august price increase. That included pipe (simpson pellet vent pro) and install. I think it broke down to $2800 stove plus $500 install material and labor.

Thats fanastic price!! for $3300 for all I can get Englander but I prefer Quadrafire or Harman due to their longer warranty program overall that and some of Englander models only holds 50 pounds while MtVernon holds 81.

I just paid $3300 last week. Sold my Castile for $1800, $1000 tax credit..... $500 to upgrade.

 

[fluemasterjr]

Snowzilla, The MT. vernon AE can not burn Black oil sunflower seed just the regular untreated sun flower seeds. I too would stay away from the log

 

[rona]

Black sunflower seeds are raised for the oil content and trying to burn them or soybeans alone will give you a mess. If you could blend the hulls with something else such as ddgs or maybe soybean stubble or soybean hulls to make into a bio mass pellet that will work.
I have been burning a bio-mass pellet with 2% ash and 8000 btu with good results. (broken link removed)
These are made of renewable agra biomass
Food grade sunflower seeds will burn ok but I think the cost will be out of line.

 

[SnowZilla]

I found a ad on Craiglist.. for $2500 but its not Quadrafire.. its Harman P68 used but it looks good shape based on that 1 picture plus its my 2nd choice as well but $2500 is kinda of high for 3 years old.. so maybe I could get it for 2k.

 

[Macrovertigo]

My installer said to avoid corn in my plain black Mt Vernon - anything other than wood pellets is messier, and corn is asking for maintenance troubles. I have never had another pellet stove besides this MV, but I think I get good value from it. I passed on the log set, especially since I am a sculptor anyway and the area where the log set would sit is perfect for primitive firing small raku pieces. I also passed on the drying racks as a possible trip hazard, but they are probably a great idea in practice.

 

[SnowZilla]

Thanks for bumping this topic up.. Well I have been looking at CB1200 and it looks like I can get everything under 3k new and I just got reply from this place ( fast emails overall ) so I am liking this place.. I still hunting.. here what it says from email but I have left some things out such as the company name, etc for obvious reasons


Good Afternoon,
We do have a CB1200 in stock at this time
, The CB1200 is $2299, Gold Door $432 and the Louver is $130 for a Total of
$2681.00 before sales tax. This stove also qualifies for the Tax Credit as
well.If you purchase the stove you can claim 30% of your purchase on your
taxes up to $1500.00.The CB1200 Weighs 349 pounds.Concerning the logs they
are made to give the stove a natural look ,It is a personal preference.The
logs make cleaning the stove take a little longer.The CB1200 is capable of
heating the 1300-1380 sq ft that you are talking about ,it just depends on
how the house is layed out.Because the stove is not ducted through out your
house like furnace ,you may need to use fans to help move the heat to
other rooms.Ideally if you can heat 2 or 3 rooms that you spend the most
amount of time in this is were you will save on fuel oil

 

[vgrund]

Snowzilla, The MT. vernon AE can not burn Black oil sunflower seed just the regular untreated sun flower seeds. I too would stay away from the log

I tripped across this old thread and thought I'd make a minor correction. According to the manual, "Tested and approved for wood pellets, shelled field corn, wheat and black oil sunflower seeds. Burning of any other type of fuel voids your warranty." So in fact black oil sunflower seeds are the ones you want, if that's your thing.

 

[vgrund]

Wow. Out of curiosity I did a little math on the cost of black oil sunflower seeds as a heating fuel. Figure 8800 BTU / lb... Google seems to find only retail pricing for bird feeding. Just for a swag let's say 50 lb bags @ $31.99. Even assuming one could secure significant bulk discounts, I'm pretty sure it would be cheaper to construct my own pellet bed nuclear reactor.

 

[rona]

black sunflower seeds would be cost prohibitive. But with that hollow auger design you could use corn in your litter box for the cats and burn all the contents. You would be saving the cost of a mousetrap, helping the environment and also have cheap entertainment.
I built a box for corn storage 4X8X6' tall in my basement. I notice the cats would jump on top but I thought they were just looking out the window. Nope but I noticed everything got burned up in the ae never plugged once.
Another thing about sunflowers they are light weight and very bulky if you are going to burn them in your insert you will be busy filling the hopper and unloading the ash pan.