Need help ID another tree.

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Omaha419

Burning Hunk
Jul 19, 2015
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Falling Waters, WV
Was scavenging wood at the local dump and came across this stuff:

The bark is very sycamore like, but the leaves are nothing like sycamore.

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The stuff is very dense and heavy.

Thanks again for tolerating all my ID requests! :)

PS: my wedges bounce out. Very difficult to split. I don't think gum is this hard to split!
 
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The only way I could get this log to split was to cut it in half, after that it split pretty easy.
 
lacebark elm (Ulmus parvifolia)
Also, called Chinese elm (sometimes still confused with Siberian elm).
Native to eastern Asia. It's a tough, medium-sized elm with slow to moderate growth rate that is selected and planted for its lacey orange bark. It tolerates a range of site conditions.
An urban tree that is planted extensively in southeast U.S. cities.
 
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Real distinctive bark - lacy with red lenticels.
We have a few in southwest Ohio. Not planted extensively up in the snow belt - hardiness and limb breakage issues.
I've burned a few pieces. It burns like elm. It seems easier to split than American elm, but perhaps that's because rounds are typically small diameter.
 
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This stuff is pretty unusual. After a recent rain storm, this is what I observe. The consistency reminds me of snot, not sticky like pine sap or anything. No odor. What is this?
 
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This stuff is pretty unusual. After a recent rain storm, this is what I observe. The consistency reminds me of snot, not sticky like pine sap or anything. No odor. What is this?

The "slippery" in Slippery elm (Ulmus rubra) is a reference to the "mucilaginous" (i.e. snot-like) inner bark. Maybe the lacebark elm has a similar substance in its sapwood.
 
Boy, thats really interesting. Cincy is spot on when he IDs something. Im impressed. The bark sort of looks like apple bark, sometimes the bark peels like Sycamore. Apples ARE from China. But Chinese Elm is sometimes confused with Siberian Elm, I can see the wood looks alike. But the snot thing really is the interesting thing here. That is a trait of Slippery Elm, its a clear mucus that is exuded from the bark.
I know about these Elms because I found one in the Orchard and was really worried I had some invasive plant that may grow faster than I can get rid of it. It was Slippery Elm and now I know where all the babies came from.
Anyway, maybe Chinese Elm has the same mucus characteristic but I find that strange. What I did discover was that Siberian Elm was introduced by DEC to cross with Native Elms because its resistant to Dutch Elm Disease but the same programs that introduced it is now trying to eradicate it. It has proven to be a very strong invasive, it crosses with Red Elm and produces a stronger hybrid.
Anyway...all interesting, maybe its some hybrid. If Chinese can cross with Red (Slippery) Elm.
Fun..fun..fun...
The good thing is the wood is stunning. Saw a dining room table made out of Red Elm and it was truly magnificent.
 
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I found one in the Orchard and was really worried I had some invasive plant that may grow faster than I can get rid of it.
actually, since you mention it . . .
lacebark elm (U. parvifolia) can become invasive in spots, typically where an adjacent site is conducive to germination for its seed (windblown), which is not too difficult. Lacebark, a fall flowering elm, produces a massive amount of clusters of single seed samara which this time of year will be turning brown. So it's not too difficult for some to establish over time often into a bushy hedgerow. If you have an orchard you might want to assess whether you'll want to remove.
In the nursery trade lacebark elm is crossed with another non-native elm (U. carpinifolia) to produce 'Frontier' elm, a medium sized, seedless cultivar that is DED resistant, and has become more popular in the landscape trade with the demise of ash.

The good thing is the wood is stunning. Saw a dining room table made out of Red Elm and it was truly magnificent.
Probably just a novelty wood, since it's slow growing with poor form for timber production. Not sure of its wood-working properties, but much of the elms have very attractive grain, but heard that it contains silica so tough on tools.
 
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