Need help tree identifying

[KJamesJR]

took a tree down that I thought was a young oak, now I’m not so sure. I can’t hardly split it with an axe. I’m now thinking it’s Elm.

It’s still very much winter here so there’s no leaves to go by. So I took some pictures of the cross section and buds.

Dutch Elm disease is a real thing in my location. I have several of these trees, most mature.

 

[Eureka]

Yes elm

 

[Eureka]

Or maybe Hackberry, is that part of that tree in the second picture used as a background for the buds? That one looks like hackberry

 

[Kevin Weis]

Don't think enough "corky wings" on bark to be Hackberry. Kevin

 

[KJamesJR]

Or maybe Hackberry, is that part of that tree in the second picture used as a background for the buds? That one looks like hackberry

The tree in the background is not included. I was having issues focusing on the buds so used a random tree for background.

So how do I split Elm? I’ve gone through sugar maple, red maple, cherry and applewood with little issues. I can not get through this Elm.

 

[Slocum]

The tree in the background is not included. I was having issues focusing on the buds so used a random tree for background.

So how do I split Elm? I’ve gone through sugar maple, red maple, cherry and applewood with little issues. I can not get through this Elm.

If you can put it aside and give it a year or wait till you have a zero degree day and it splits great. Good luck!

 

[Slocum]

If you can put it aside and give it a year or wait till you have a zero degree day and it splits great. Good luck!

I'm sorry. It don't split great but it's better

 

[Eureka]

Hydraulic splitter. It can be a pain even with one of those. Some trees are better than others. I just know the fence line elms in my windy area are knotted and twisted. It does split much better when dry or frozen.

 

[KJamesJR]

Strange... I thought it was so difficult to split BECAUSE it was frozen. I’m using a Fiskars x27 and it just bounces right off it. Had to sharpen twice.

 

[fishki]

Hackberry, 1st image. Hard to tell on the buds, need a close up, but they look elm-ish. Tree behind the buds is also hackberry.

I have had hackberry split easy by hand and then some that required splitter. I don't even try to hand split anymore.

 

[Slocum]

Strange... I thought it was so difficult to split BECAUSE it was frozen. I’m using a Fiskars x27 and it just bounces right off it. Had to sharpen twice.

It's good wood. But I never cut it green. Elm for sure in first pic

 

[DuaeGuttae]

Do you actually have to split it? Perhaps I’m underestimating the diameter from the picture, but it looks quite small. If it’s so hard to split, couldn’t you buck it and stack it somewhere separately to give it longer to season in round form?We used to get gum from my mother that she couldn’t split with her little hydraulic splitter. Her old stove has a very narrow door, but it fit in ours without a problem.

I’ve never burned any elm, but I keep reading that it’s pretty low moisture to begin with if it’s dead. How large is that trunk?

 

[KJamesJR]

Do you actually have to split it? Perhaps I’m underestimating the diameter from the picture, but it looks quite small. If it’s so hard to split, couldn’t you buck it and stack it somewhere separately to give it longer to season in round form?We used to get gum from my mother that she couldn’t split with her little hydraulic splitter. Her old stove has a very narrow door, but it fit in ours without a problem.

I’ve never burned any elm, but I keep reading that it’s pretty low moisture to begin with if it’s dead. How large is that trunk?

It's not too large a diameter. I'd say the trunk is about 14". It's really tall. It's also really straight so I don't know why it's giving me issues. I'm going to try a shorter log when I get back to the house. Maybe a 16" log will split better than a 20".

Hackberry isn't supposed to be common in my area. From what I've been reading it's in the Elm family. I have quite a few more. I'm going to let the rest put leaves out so I know what they are for sure.

 

[Slocum]

It's not too large a diameter. I'd say the trunk is about 14". It's really tall. It's also really straight so I don't know why it's giving me issues. I'm going to try a shorter log when I get back to the house. Maybe a 16" log will split better than a 20".

Hackberry isn't supposed to be common in my area. From what I've been reading it's in the Elm family. I have quite a few more. I'm going to let the rest put leaves out so I know what they are for sure.

If your other elm isn't in the way let them grow till the disease gets them. Then let bark fall off then they will dry fast! I don't split my elm unless it's over 10" cause that's the size of my stove door. 1 8-9" log will give me 9-10 hours of heat at night. There isn't many man hours involved with 1 round of elm burning that long. Pretty efficient in my opinion

 

[Slocum]

If your other elm isn't in the way let them grow till the disease gets them. Then let bark fall off then they will dry fast! I don't split my elm unless it's over 10" cause that's the size of my stove door. 1 8-9" log will give me 9-10 hours of heat at night. There isn't many man hours involved with 1 round of elm burning that long. Pretty efficient in my opinion

That's my all nighter stack

 

[saewoody]

Looks like elm to me. Splits great with a kinetic splitter! I enjoy burning it.


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[Don.S]

Only thing I burnt this winter was elm and it was all split by hand. My trick is hit it harder and if that doesn't work get mad and hit it harder.