New Install: Pacific Alderlea T6 or Jotul F55

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Sep 2, 2020
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UP, Michigan, USA
Is the PE EBT affected from a strong wind ?
Thanks for the Sweep' Library... infos, very interesting.
I have not noticed mine being affected by high or gusty winds.
 

Todd

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Nov 19, 2005
9,501
NW Wisconsin
Don’t look past the F55, I have it’s smaller brother the F45 and love it. No problem with overnight burns even with softer woods like Aspen. It also has a good cooking surface, glass stays clean, stainless baffle system and reversible flue collar if you need a rear venting stove.
 

BKVP

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Don't discount low and slow. We save on our NG bill every winter by using our King when it's 55F and colder. You can put in 90lbs (King model) and operate it like a crock pot. The thermostat provides even heat for the entire load, based upon how high or low it is set. No need to limit amount of fuel added.
 
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Kodiak

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Dec 13, 2014
23
BC Canada
Don't discount low and slow. We save on our NG bill every winter by using our King when it's 55F and colder. You can put in 90lbs (King model) and operate it like a crock pot. The thermostat provides even heat for the entire load, based upon how high or low it is set. No need to limit amount of fuel added.
I don’t discount it at all!! In fact I want a bk princess, but my wife really wants a non cat stove to see the flames as much as possible all the time. Plus she’s used to using a non cat stove.
How do I convince her?

Either way I gotta decide pretty soon. I’d like to get this installed well before the autumn when things get crazy for all things wood burning.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
91,301
South Puget Sound, WA
Don't discount low and slow. We save on our NG bill every winter by using our King when it's 55F and colder. You can put in 90lbs (King model) and operate it like a crock pot. The thermostat provides even heat for the entire load, based upon how high or low it is set. No need to limit amount of fuel added.
They have a heat pump system that easily covers this need better than a wood stove. This is not the place for the VP to be promoting their product. Revisit the house rules.
 
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BKVP

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They have a heat pump system that easily covers this need better than a wood stove. This is not the place for the VP to be promoting their product. Revisit the house rules.
Perhaps I should have noted there are other units that can also provide low & slow burns. Kuma, Hearthstone all make great low and slow options....I have always advocated for options to those looking for a wood stove or insert...my past posts speak to that.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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Perhaps?

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Kodiak

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Dec 13, 2014
23
BC Canada
Update: Looks like I can get a PE Alderlea T6 with in 2 weeks turn around.
Now we need to sort out where the pipe will exit the roof and bring in the interior ceiling around the trusses and if any bends will be needed.
The challenge I’m having envisioning is how to line up where the ceiling transition happens with where the stove will sit and then be able to build a raised hearth pad for it. Seems it would make sense to do ceiling transition first then drop a plumb bomb down to find stove outlet Center.

Super excited to have a wood stove coming! Gotta go get some firewood now, we’ll , once it finally rains. I’ve got a cord and half stored at a friends place that we took with us when we moved!! I’ll have to retrieve that and help him replenish.

Anyway, any thoughts on install and lining up the ceiling with outlet Center with minimal bends and keeping clearances?
 
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begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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Good deal. Use a cardboard mockup of the stove foot print, or the whole stove. Mark the flue outlet center on the cardboard. Then get up on a ladder with a plumb bob to hone in the exact location.
 

Kodiak

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Dec 13, 2014
23
BC Canada
Good deal. Use a cardboard mockup of the stove foot print, or the whole stove. Mark the flue outlet center on the cardboard. Then get up on a ladder with a plumb bob to hone in the exact location.
Thankyou. Good idea with the mock up. It will help with hearth construction too and clearances.
 

Kodiak

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Dec 13, 2014
23
BC Canada
Ok more thoughts , would love everybody’s feedback….

With my corner install hearth I am building I’m considering how much height to give it.
I am open to anything from almost flush with floor to 8-12” of rise. I’ve always fancied being able to sit on the edge of the raised hearth.

Tell me about your hearth heights and things you love like or hate about them or things you wished you had considered when making them ( or if you could change it ). Thanks all.
 

stoveliker

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Nov 17, 2019
2,808
Long Island NY
My height is 1.5" or so (from the pad). I have a stepping stool of 8-10" tall in front of it that I sit on. I'd like it to be 16" tall.

So yes, if you can raise the stove by a foot or so (and you can given that you don't have a thimble height set but go straight up and out), I would. Then whether you can sit on it depends on how wide the raised hearth is - sitting too close to a running stove can give you sun (stove) burn....
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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Good point. 12" seat is not the most comfortable to sit on or get up from. Typical seating height is 16-18". That would put the stovetop at about 46-48" " which is a bit tall, especially if one expects to be using it for cooking. It might be better to situate a comfortable chair or rocker close by.
 
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EbS-P

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Jan 19, 2019
1,709
SE North Carolina
Good point. 12" seat is not the most comfortable
With a fire roaring you can sit there for maybe 5 minutes right in front of the stove. Mine is 12” off the floor with short legs and I kneel on the floor to load it.

with the front 16” clearance, raising means you loose some floor space. I like having it raised as it makes a natural “safety” buffer when you walk by/ around especially with kids. Probably not as useful in a corner.

could be neat to have raised portion just under stove the. Flush “ish”to meet clearance out front. If have taped out the pad you’ll know how much room that would make / save. Would make cooking on a raised stove easier as you could walk right up to it. Also it would visually look like it’s tucked into the corner better.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
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Many years back a nice lady had a raised hearth welded up out of metal for her F3CB. It raised the stove enough that she could store wood under the hearth.
 
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