New twist on and old arguement.

[jqgs214]

My new PE Pacific insert loads north/south and the secondary burn manifold also runs north/south but the glass airwash is east/west of course. Any input on how this may affect burn, do N/S stoves burn more like a cigarette? Will it be hard to load my stove up for the night if its not all the way down to coals and the back 1/2 of the wood is still plenty solid and the front is coals? I have no EXP with N/S stoves and there will be a little learning curve I'm sure. Just want to know if maybe I should cut some shorter pieces if the above scenario is the case.

 

[bacsales]

I usually rake the coals to the front to even out the coal bed for overnight loading. It does burn like a cigarette and that is one of the reasons I think that you get such a good burn time. A neat trick is in the morning after you think the stove has burned itself mostly out rake the coals to the front in a pile that's centered. Place a few pieces of wood on the coals and woosh the fire is going again before you know it. The airwash air and the front manifold air act like a forge to heat things back up.

 

[jqgs214]

Jack,

Howa ya doin and thanks again for your help. Do you have experience burning this model? I know youve sold many. What is a realistic burn time with red oak? And what kind of surface temps should I be looking for. My thermometer will fit right above the door I think.

 

[bacsales]

Did you get the small (vista)

medium

or large (summit)

I don't remember surface temps but on the medium I could get 14 hours. Keep in mind at 14 hours i had just coals in the back. Then use the trick I mentioned above. I burned a different model of pacific every year from 1992 to 2001 in my retail store. My retail store over here burned a super 27 last year but I was in the office not the person loading it daily.

 

[jqgs214]

I got the medium (pacific) see my signature - and 14 hours for restart but what is realistic usable heat out put or I guess a good way to measure it is how long will the fan run on auto at a medium speed setting. (seems like the best way to measure useable burn time to me)

 

[karl]

I think he got the medium one, but I'm looking at getting the large one. How does the Summit do?

 

[bacsales]

A conservative burn time would be 8 to 9 hours. I really think after a year of use you will get used to how to place the wood. You will get pretty good balancing getting good burn times and keeping a clean chimney. When you first load it up you almost want to char the wood on high for a while then shut it down for a long burntime. This is where experience and getting used to the particular stove comes in. Just play around with it.

 

[bacsales]

Summit is about the same burntimes but putting out more heat along the way.

 

[jqgs214]

Jack,

Thanks for the 411 and 8-9 hours will be a dream if its true.

 

[BrotherBart]

The other thing to do burning N/S is when you are at home and don't want to cook yourself out of the place use three splits. Two on bottom and one on top of the valley between them. The air will shoot between the ones on bottom and roll back over the top for secondary burn. But at four to five hundred degree temps for two or three hour burns. Three to four hundred degrees after you get a little practice.

Good for keeping the house warm without cooking yourself out. When you are heating with a stove 24/7 ya ain't gonna want to keep that puppy cranking all of the time. And loaded up N/S a stove will do some burning and toss some heat.