Old Breckwell p-24

RDealy

New Member
Dec 3, 2019
5
Snohomish, WA
I have a 1988 Breckwell p-24 fs. Everything has been working fine. Well, originally the auger was jammed, seized to the bushing on the end of the auger. So, I pulled the auger, and cleaned the end of the shaft up. Its been working ok for the last month or so. Now, randomly, the auger will jam up. I have a feeling the bushing at the end of the auger needs cleaned up, or replaced. I took motor apart, cleaned it up, lubed the gear box up. It seems to have the power to work ok. My question is. Should I upgrade to a more powerful motor? If so, which one? How do I replace the upper bushing? Looking at it, it looks like its steel? I would imagine brass would be better. I don't know how to remove it. There are no threads that I can tell. Is it just press fitted in? Do i need to fab up a puller of some sorts? I included a photo of what it looks like out. Thanks for any info.
 

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RDealy

New Member
Dec 3, 2019
5
Snohomish, WA
Should be a brass bushing in the top and bottom
I haven't found a bushing on the bottom. It runs thru a teflon block, straight to the shaft that comes off the motor. The bushing at the other end, appears to be steel. Problem is, I have no way of removing it. As far as I can tell anyways. If I can figure put how to remove it, than I can change it to a brass bushing, or a sealed bearing of some sort. Any ideas? This is a 1988 model. Probably one of the first models. Thanks.
 

zrock

Minister of Fire
Dec 2, 2017
755
bc
Someone has modified that stove at some point im betting. Looks like that block has been cut with a hand saw. If it was me i would order the replacements and once i had em in my hand i would try to figure out what the stock config was.. Steel on steel is just going to wear out fast and rust together when not in use.. The nylon is probably getting warm during use and gluing to the shaft when not in use when it cools down...
On a side note hope your insurance company did not see these pics. Pretty sure they would pull your insurance since its sitting on a flammable surface and very flammable surface directly behind it..
 

RDealy

New Member
Dec 3, 2019
5
Snohomish, WA
Ok. Does anyone have any info on a late 80's Breckwell? The parts I have been a ke to find are for newer models. Or should I just toss this one, and find a different stove?

Ps. Thanks for the reminder on the fiery surroundings on this stove. The house is currently getting remodeled, and i want to make sure this stove is going to work before I put abunch of time into the hearth and stone work. If I end up getting a different stove, than the layout may be different.
 

zrock

Minister of Fire
Dec 2, 2017
755
bc
My opinion is if your going to go to all the work of remodeling why leave that old thing in their? I would look for a new used or new depending on your finances. It will pay for itself in the end in more ways then one..

I would temp slap a pc of drywall up at least behind the stove. Better safe than sorry especially with all the time and money you are gong to put in the reno
 

RDealy

New Member
Dec 3, 2019
5
Snohomish, WA
I have a piece of drywall that i put behind the stove when im using it. Just curious, whats the difference between this unit, and a newer one? It cranks out the heat when it works. Other than the control board being digital, vs analog. The main fire box, the way the fans work, etc, all seems the same to me. ‍♂ Sure, I can spend several grand on a new one, just wondering what the efficiency differance is? Do the new ones burn cleaner? This one goes thru a bag in about 12 hours, on medium speed. Same as my buddys new stove. Im just trying to justify the cost of a new one, vs fixing this one. Thanks for your opinion.
 

zrock

Minister of Fire
Dec 2, 2017
755
bc
My breckwell on med a bag will last around 24-30 hours and that will cook me out of the house... I have a older unit as well just not quite as old as yours... with yours I would be concerned with the board going out or with its age a structural issue. As I just went back and looked their was no board available... so if you have a run of failures of blowers and such and then the board goes that's a bit of money lost.. the auger and shaft were done when I got mine. I replaced the burn pot, limit switches, blower and a few ware and tear items. With me bring in canada if I add up everything I replaced and previous owner replaced I could have paied off a little over half of a new stove. Or bought several newer ones... their are always good deals around on new ones. I missed a deal on a 2 year old bigger harmen for 1/4 the price of new.. they did not know how to use it and did not like the soot buildup on glass... if the board ever goes on mine it will be a toss up if I toss it or fix it... hopfully I find a spare before then..

Figure with doing Reno you would want a nice new stove or close to new to complement your Reno...

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