Opinions /thoughts , owner reviews on this stove

[Tectop]

US Stove 2000 Sq foot wood heater sold at Lowe's for $899.00 . I am just surfing the web and shopping for a wood heater before the weather starts to turn cooler.

 

[Woody Stover]

What happened with your previous inclination toward the Englander 30? Heating from the basement you are going to need some firepower....

 

[Tectop]

What happened with your previous inclination toward the Englander 30? Heating from the basement you are going to need some firepower....

I am still looking at the Englander too. I just looking around on the web at different stoves. Looks like the us stove and the Englander are running about the same price .

 

[Woody Stover]

Yeah, there are a lot of value stoves out there, just find the ones that will heat your space, compare construction by looking at them in person, and go from there (I know you don't have a lot of dealers where you are.) You may want to go a bit bigger than the 2000, from the basement, unless you have exceptional insulation and air sealing. Good luck, and keep us posted.

 

[Woody Stover]

Also, how well can the heat get out of the basement? A wide opening that's close to the stove will get heat upstairs better than a narrow, enclosed staircase away from the stove. You've got the equipment to get wood, just depends how much of your heating needs you want to supplement...

 

[webby3650]

U.S. stove company. Made in China? I'd stick with Englander for sure!

 

[osagebow]

Definitely get the Englander. My bargain stove was serviceable, but regret not springing for a better unit.

 

[kennyp2339]

Stay away, I have the next size up 2500 series, it does a pretty good job at heating but that's about it. Every time I would clean the stove and chimney I would remove the baffle, unfortunately the screws that hold the secondary air tubes would sheer off and I would have to re-tap them, real pain in the middle of winter. The gaskets that go in the door are cheap and they tend to get extremely firm, to replace them the recommended size is 5/8 but 5/8 is to small and 7/8 is to large. Now to the real problem, the actual metal jacket is to thin, I have two equal cracks one on each side of the door open, upper left and upper right about 1/2 to 3/4" long, this did not occur to an over fire, its just stress and poor design with Chinese steel. Again the stove heated like a dream with 8-10 hr burns using maple, birch, cherry, and oak; but the problems with the seals, cracking, secondary tube screws breaking and flimsy thin fiber board baffle make this stove just a entry level / starter stove not made to handle a winters heating only weekend warrior stuff

 

[Grisu]

Don't want to say anything bad about US Stove but Englander has great customer service as a bunch of posts here show.

 

[kennyp2339]

Yes, if your on a budget or want the best bang for you buck stick the englander stove company, made in America, good customer service, and a great product, I put a NC30 in at my buddy's house, I was impressed with the stove construction far more superior to the US stove.

 

[brenndatomu]

Yeah, you won't find any US Stove reps here on Hearth...Englander...yes

Points:
USS-0
Englander-1 (I'm tempted to go 3-4 points on this one)

Made in China vs USA (read: spends money on shipping instead of product materials)

USS-0
Englander-2


Yeah, yeah, I know, this coming from a guy with a VZ stove in his sig. Well, if I had a choice of an American made stove vs china, and both would fit in my spot for it, and in a similar price range...no brainer choice! PS, my VZ stove has overall been fine, but, their customer service is lacking...to be kind about it.

 

[dafattkidd]

Tec, According to the woodburners on this site, you can't go wrong with the Englander. Buying low cost items is generally a bit of a risk. With the 30 in particular it is seemingly a homerun 100% of the time. People love this stove. Large firebox, large glass window for viewing the fire, quality steel construction, excellent customer service and very low cost. I do not own one, nor have I ever burned one, but I trust the members on this site who have for years sung the praises of this unit. I hope that's helpful.

 

[Auzzie Gumtree]

I have the same stove. I use it as a secondary unit with one fire a night down in the family room where the main heater cant reach.

I have nothing but praise for the unit - it heats up very quickly, it burns very efficiently and is ideal as a starter unit. It has a few flaws - the design of the fire box makes it awkward to reload without 'stuff' spilling out from the firebox. The distance between the bottom of the door and firebox is too small. It is only good for ~ 5 hours burn time.

Not sure of your situation but this was a cheap stove here, in fact I sold the stove i replaced for more on Ebay than i paid for the new stove. I cant comment on the Englander but from reading the reviews etc.... it looks like a much better stove and if the pricing is similar i would definitely go for the Englander.

 

[Owen1508]

Yeah, you won't find any US Stove reps here on Hearth...Englander...yes

Brenndatomu knowledge = 0

 

[Owen1508]

Also Benndatomu...of the 62 models of wood/pellet stoves that US Stove puts out 33 of them are made in the US. Not sure which other companies mke 33 models of stoves here in the US. You lack of truthful knowledge is astonishing.

Brenndatomu - 00

as to the OP Englander makes a very good product and CSR at Englander are well thought of, Best to take all of the owners you can find reviews on for the stoves you are looking at. Go and look at the stoves in person (if you can) and make your best educated choice.

 

[Auzzie Gumtree]

So do you recommend the us stove? What are the good points in your opinion?

 

[Owen1508]

So do you recommend the us stove? What are the good points in your opinion?

I work for USSC so I'm biased...based on the three reviews on the 2000 here at hearth.com all three gave 5 stars. Does that mean 100% of the people who own EVERY stove are 100% 5 star happy...doubtful... I like Chevy hate ford...there are many who think the opp. each there own. Kenny P had issues with the 2500..(if you get with me in a pm kenny I'll see what can be done).Yet their are others who had no issues. Everyone has different results, not everyone burns the same way either. The new EPA standards are going to tighten the field some. I will say this...anyone who has a CSR issue while call USSC this season bring it to my attn please.

 

[johnpma]

I have a US Stove 2000 installed in my small fireplace opening in the living room. We have a 2100 sq ft. old farm home which is poorly insulated. We ran our stove from January-May around the clock burning some seasoned wood, eco-bricks, and some wood that was still a bit green. I have no complaints with the stove at all. I paid shy of $500 from Tractor Supply with a 10% off coupon. It's what I could afford so I bought it. Although it's a bit on the small side I will say that once I figured out how to burn the stove the heat output was incredible for a small stove. The blower is much more compact than the Englander's blower.

As far as steel goes I purchase steel every day at work. I can tell you that the majority of the steel being used to build American made products is most likely coming from Asia. This includes parts assembled on your Chevy, and Ford pickups.

The Englander looks like a great stove, and has great reviews. My plan is to insulate my home better, and do some air sealing, and burn my 2000 again this season. If I need a bigger stove next year after the improvements I will then shop the market for a larger stove.

Good luck

 

[brenndatomu]

Also Benndatomu...of the 62 models of wood/pellet stoves that US Stove puts out 33 of them are made in the US. Not sure which other companies mke 33 models of stoves here in the US. You lack of truthful knowledge is astonishing.

Brenndatomu - 00

as to the OP Englander makes a very good product and CSR at Englander are well thought of, Best to take all of the owners you can find reviews on for the stoves you are looking at. Go and look at the stoves in person (if you can) and make your best educated choice.

OK, so ya snuck in here in the last 7 months and yes, that makes me technically wrong. No need to get snippy about it. Your lack of customer service skills is astonishing. I'll give ya a freeby, being the new kid on the block, maybe making personal cracks on the membership not a great way to impress the natives (or the OP)??? It's not like you've been around here since '06 like a certain Englander rep that participates in threads almost every day. Gotta say good on ya though, I like to see mfgr reps on these forums. Seems like it would be time well spent to have your "ear to the ground" in this way.
Alright, movin on. I see Vogelzang in your sig line, USSC makes Vogelzang? I did not know that. I seen no evidence of that anywhere in my owners manual/etc. Is that a new development or been a while? As i said earlier, my experience with emailing VZ customer service about an install question was not too impressive.

 

[Tectop]

OK, so ya snuck in here in the last 7 months and yes, that makes me technically wrong. No need to get snippy about it. Your lack of customer service skills is astonishing. I'll give ya a freeby, being the new kid on the block, maybe making personal cracks on the membership not a great way to impress the natives (or the OP)??? It's not like you've been around here since '06 like a certain Englander rep that participates in threads almost every day. Gotta say good on ya though, I like to see mfgr reps on these forums. Seems like it would be time well spent to have your "ear to the ground" in this way.
Alright, movin on. I see Vogelzang in your sig line, USSC makes Vogelzang? I did not know that. I seen no evidence of that anywhere in my owners manual/etc. Is that a new development or been a while? As i said earlier, my experience with emailing VZ customer service about an install question was not too impressive.

Unless someone knows different, looks like the GDP deal on the web is over.Has anyone seen anything different. And thanks to all for you reviews and thoughts.

 

[brenndatomu]

GDP?

 

[Tectop]

GDP?

Sorry, typo using my phone .I was wanting to say the deal from H.D. Home Depot on the Englander stove

 

[brenndatomu]

Oh, yeah, OK. The 30 comes up at $899 for me right now. Maybe there are some 10% coupons out there? Military discount?

 

[stoveguy2esw]

ok easy now , lets not turn this into a "stove civil war"

first off . I was unaware as well that we had a USSC rep in the fold here as well, and don't beat on him for just joining , I didn't know this site existed but for a customer who turned me on to it several years ago.

Owen1508 , Welcome Aboard! im always happy to see another industry rep here. its always a good thing for the industry to be widely represented in the forums. looking forward to "working with you" .

as for my take on USSC, they make solid units , heck back in the day we even built some pellet units for them. for the most part they are all good guys , met a bunch of them at the HPBA in Atlanta several years ago had a great time chatting with them.

what Owen said earlier has merit, let the folks who have the stoves offer their reviews and lets give Owen a chance to work with the members in here like you guys gave me the chance to do so back when I first came on board here.

 

[jeff_t]

I was never too impressed with the build quality of my Hotblast furnace, but when the bearings went bad on one of the blowers a few months after the warranty was up, USSC wasted no time in sending me two replacements. They were updated units with bushings and oil tubes.

No complaints as far as customer service goes.