I am a dealer for Heatmaster so that's what I'm familiar with. The G4000 can handle a pretty large house no problem. It seems the harder you push it the better it runs.
I do, and I've actually been in touch with him a few times. He's about 45 minutes away and offered to stop out and do a free "home assessment." I took him up on that offer and he said he'd call me in a week to iron out a day/time. After calling him back a few times and not hearing anything, I walked away. I'm sure he's a nice enough guy and is plenty busy, but I am not a big fan of chasing around the guy who I want to give $10k to.
Appreciate the advice. And yes - Woodmaster has been bought out by CB and their gassers are rebadged CB's. My local dealer confirmed that.
I would assume the dealer makes more on the insulated piping than the boiler. That's not to take away from the importance of insulated piping nor the quality of the Heatmaster product, but you could probably do better DIY or finding a different vendor. I have a feeling the dealer offers financing and you can wrap the pipe up in the price of the stove, more of a convenience than anything else.
FWIW this guy wanted $11.50/ft for the Rhinoflex. I do have a buddy who does spray foam, considered doing DIY similar to the stickies thread on this forum.
Makes sense.
No clue how anyone would expect that stuff to last more than a few months underground.
That’s about the going price.
That stuff, and the higher quality closed cell Armacell will both harden and crumble if they see any real heat or light exposure. So yeah I wouldn’t think direct burial would be a whole lot better
By "real pipe" do you mean something along the lines of Rhinoflex, or the DIY spray foam job?
I haven't yet established a "wood shed." My current situation is three different areas of stacked wood on skids. Eventually I'll build a more permanent structure, and I'm sure the OWB location will be a huge factor in that.
So you handle the wood less, but then have to make (or buy) twice as much wood...so in the end I see no advantage there...makes it that much harder to get ahead on your wood supply actually, and twice (or more) the space tied up in storing it too...
I've never seen wind affect an outdoor boiler that had a good tight draft closure.
Aren't the new gasification boilers nearly as efficient as my wood furnace which is rated around 75-80%?
Yeah, when actually firing...a lot of losses other losses though...especially the way most people are set up and the unit just throttles up when there is a major call for heat...so losses from idling, line losses to the house(that can be HUGE if you use cheap pipe and/or have a high water table) loss of the radiant heat of having the unit inside the envelope of your home, etc, etc...
+1 to exterior heat loss
I keep trying to talk my dad and brother into getting rid of their old CB pig, and putting the new one inside one of their shops (they heat both of their houses and shops from one OWB on the farm)
I have my C150 it’s own little building and it stays pretty warm in there. I really think most of that heat comes off the exposed 30” of insulated chimney section. I know this little thing would never be heating all of the space that it is if it was sitting outside in the harsh winter environment of northern WI.
Putting the OWB in my detached garage is certainly a decent idea. I have the space for it out there, but not sure I want the clutter of wood, ash, etc.
