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razor

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I got a price qoute from pelletsales.com today. Canadian premium for 219.00 per ton W/32.00 delivery charge. The next brand was quality, also for 219.00 w/26.00 delivery. Has anyone tried these brands ? My local supplier still has wood pellet brand for 225.00 pick up. What would you do ?
 
If the canadian premium are NEWP yes I tried them Quality Tried a couple of bags too, wood pellet brand I wanted to try them but my son put them in the stove while I was away on vacation....
Harry back carries all these pellets and probably has more info and feedback for you.
BUT I now prefer the softwoods to hardwoods, I liked the NEWP canadians over the Jaffrey Blend, unfortunatly the NEWP canadians will most likely not be available next year. (too bad)
Any one of them should do you justice. but maybe you should stick with something that will be available next year as well, so I would suggest quality. This way you won't be going through the learning curve of the different pellet types next season.
I heard those wood pellet brand are the nuclear pellets........ :cheese:
 
The prices are all close. You have to just look at how much you are picking up - and then where they have to be moved, etc.

Unless it is entertainment and exercise for you, it would seem not to be worth hauling the bags from your dealer after gas, time, etc. is considered.

I'll let others comment on the brands, but in general I like softwoods better also - if your stove is a very picky one, then you don't want to get stuck with something that is not adequate.
 
razor said:
I got a price qoute from pelletsales.com today.
Canadian premium for 219.00 per ton W/32.00 delivery charge. The next brand was quality,
also for 219.00 w/26.00 delivery. Has anyone tried these brands ? My local supplier still has
wood pellet brand for 225.00 pick up. What would you do ?

I am using the NEWP Canadian premiums and like em.
They burn good in my stove. I used to have my sister
take me with her truck but we can only safely haul one
ton at a time in there so that means several trips and is a big pita
since she lives in Ayer and I live on the south shore..
Not to mention, it's easier to unpack a ton at a time
at your leisure, where as if you pick them up in a pickup
truck you have to unload them right away.
Pelletsales double wraps them in these giant, heavy duty
plastic bag type things. I've got a ton outside from them that has
been there since February and is high and dry.
For these reasons I would get mine delivered.
 
ok.

Quality, a softwood pellet, wont likely be available as new stock, or in much quantity this year. One of the larger manufacturers bought them in, in an attempt to bolster their supplies, for the winter of '06. Wasnt a great winter, they didnt sell well. I dont think the manufacturer found it profitable to ship it out, and pay warehousing costs on it. The product seems to burn fine, I burned it all winter. This product is bagged out west and shipped via railcar out here. Because of this, I find that there is an unacceptable amount of wear and breakage in these units, not to mention they are shipped at 70 bags/skid (2800 lbs). When we sell them, if we find a broken bag, we end up giving the customer a new bag, and so that comes off our bottom line. The margin is quite low on these, so the breakage/spoilage can easily make them a money-losing proposition. Im told that of the Quality that still exists locally, its all old stock....most likely produced in the summer/fall of '06.

The New England Canadians, also softwoods, seem to be a good pellet. They burn well, we dont get complaints about them. A correction though for Zeta.....PelletSales.com does no wrapping at all, they are a broker. Those pellets are wrapped quite well, but they are wrapped by New England Pellet, in Palmer. Seen it done, and am pretty familiar with the site and their procedures. Zeta is correct that most pellets may be left outside as well, as long as the spot is off the ground and covered. I dont think Id rip into a skid and leave it unwrapped though...just inviting problems then.

The Wood Pellet Company pellets also seem to be pretty good, they are a hardwood premium pellet. Their skids are absolutely awful tho (bad condition of the actual skid), and as a dealer, they dont endear themselves to me by sending them in a box trailer...its a real problem when you dont have a loading dock trying to get a 10,000 lb forklift inside. :-P The Wood Pellet Co sells to retailers a little different than most. On one day a year, they take orders, via fax. On this one day, they virtually sell ALL of their stock, so, if you arent early in faxing you are out of luck. You likely wont see many Wood Pellet Co pellets around till September at the earliest. These are the infamous nucular pellets, by the way. :-P

Once again, us hard-headed New Englanders resist en masse burning softwood pellets. We grow up being taught that the only thing you burn is oak and maple, and the pine is good for nothing but brush fires and landfills. Many people are quite insistant that softwood pellets arent very good, then you look at a lab analysis, try to show there are just as much, and often MORE, btu's/lb than hardwoods. Hey, we dont argue with them, we sell them what they want.

About 1/2 of our customers haul their own, and half have us deliver them. We are trying truckload deliveries this year (basically a truckload of pellets delivered to one spot, where the customer disseminates it from there, to friends, relatives), Ill let you know how it goes. Only have sold two truckloads this way so far. The thing that kills us is mileage. Transportation isnt cheap, neither is the truck, forklift, and personnel who deliver it. Still working the kinks out on this one. Also working on tractor-trailer loads- problem with this is the customer need a forklift to unload...bit of a problem there for most folks.

If you dont know how the pellets are going to burn in your particular unit, Craig's advice above is quite good.....try a few bags before you commit to tonnage. What are you going to do if that cheapo Standard pellet wont burn and youve got 4 tons sitting in your garage? Some pellet units burn a wider variety than others, with the bottom-feed units generally being less picky than the top-fed units.
 
Geez harry, i wanted to hear your opinion, but I didn't think I would have to read a book ! :-) My first year with a pellet stove, and I burned 2 tons of Wood pellet brand ( I was satisfied with the heat output and usage ) and 1 ton of Armstong softwoods
which I believed had higher heat output. But like you said . I had a fair amount of water damaged bags (armstrong) The canadian premium pellets they quoted me a price on , are made by pinnacle pellet and packaged by new england. I think you and GVA helped me make my decision and order these ! I won't mind not having to pick up the pellets, but I am sure my truck will.
Thank you guys !
 
Harry,

Your customers are spoiled. :-)
I've done my fair share of delivery logistics on both sides of the coin (driver and dispatching the trucks for a huge furniture co down south) and know how much of a PITA sime of them can be.

My local dealer delivered 4 tons to me this afternoon. He uses a regular (old) box truck, 1 man and a pallet jack. He drops them in the driveway and off he goes. I can tell him where, draw a map or sketch out where I want them in the driveway if no one is going to be home but that is as far as they go. No over the hills and to the shed. If he can't back the truck up to where you want them, they aren't going there. They deliver to certain parts of the county on certain days and other parts on other days, no exceptions, and they will usually only book delivery's 1 week in advance.

They are the biggest dealer in the area and everybody in town goes to them first.

John
 
PutnamJct said:
Harry,

Your customers are spoiled. :-)
I've done my fair share of delivery logistics on both sides of the coin (driver and dispatching the trucks for a huge furniture co down south) and know how much of a PITA sime of them can be.

My local dealer delivered 4 tons to me this afternoon. He uses a regular (old) box truck, 1 man and a pallet jack. He drops them in the driveway and off he goes. I can tell him where, draw a map or sketch out where I want them in the driveway if no one is going to be home but that is as far as they go. No over the hills and to the shed. If he can't back the truck up to where you want them, they aren't going there. They deliver to certain parts of the county on certain days and other parts on other days, no exceptions, and they will usually only book delivery's 1 week in advance.

They are the biggest dealer in the area and everybody in town goes to them first.

John

I dunno about spoiled, John, but we try to put them where they want them. The problem with a forklift is that i cant go into a garage...can usually push them inside so the door will close, but cant put them to the side, or by the back wall, etc. As for other places, we do our best to put them near the shed, or under the deck, etc.ometimes tho, you just cant get there...pool in the way, a stone wall, fences, etc. And then there is the perfectly manicured lawns.....we wont go over them.....the lift makes marks, and if the lawn is soft, can make some very impressive ones!
 
HarryBack said:
PutnamJct said:
Harry,

Your customers are spoiled. :-)
I've done my fair share of delivery logistics on both sides of the coin (driver and dispatching the trucks for a huge furniture co down south) and know how much of a PITA sime of them can be.

My local dealer delivered 4 tons to me this afternoon. He uses a regular (old) box truck, 1 man and a pallet jack. He drops them in the driveway and off he goes. I can tell him where, draw a map or sketch out where I want them in the driveway if no one is going to be home but that is as far as they go. No over the hills and to the shed. If he can't back the truck up to where you want them, they aren't going there. They deliver to certain parts of the county on certain days and other parts on other days, no exceptions, and they will usually only book delivery's 1 week in advance.

They are the biggest dealer in the area and everybody in town goes to them first.

John

I dunno about spoiled, John, but we try to put them where they want them. The problem with a forklift is that i cant go into a garage...can usually push them inside so the door will close, but cant put them to the side, or by the back wall, etc. As for other places, we do our best to put them near the shed, or under the deck, etc.ometimes tho, you just cant get there...pool in the way, a stone wall, fences, etc. And then there is the perfectly manicured lawns.....we wont go over them.....the lift makes marks, and if the lawn is soft, can make some very impressive ones!

Wow, I feel spoiled by our dealer now. They use their fork lift to put the pallets in the garage, then bring a pallet jack to move them to the back wall.

They only drop off in my area on Wednesdays, and you do have to remind them to bring the pallet jack, but that is a small price to get the pallets where I need them.
 
heh...considered tha pallet jack idea, until my workmen's comp girl about had a coronary when I asked about it. It seems they are a great source of back sprains and strains.
 
I should add, he will put them in the garage or a shed as long as he can roll them off the lift gate and into it with the pallet jack. Unfortunately, my garage is full of disassembled Plymouth at the moment.......
 
HarryBack said:
heh...considered tha pallet jack idea, until my workmen's comp girl about had a coronary when I asked about it. It seems they are a great source of back sprains and strains.
It's kinda funny those hand pallet jacks don't seem that heavy when they are rolling on the ground. But try to pick that thing out of a truck to put it on the ground...... It's got hernia written all over it.........
As far as workers comp...... Mrs. GVA where are ya?
 
GVA said:
HarryBack said:
heh...considered tha pallet jack idea, until my workmen's comp girl about had a coronary when I asked about it. It seems they are a great source of back sprains and strains.
It's kinda funny those hand pallet jacks don't seem that heavy when they are rolling on the ground. But try to pick that thing out of a truck to put it on the ground...... It's got hernia written all over it.........
As far as workers comp...... Mrs. GVA where are ya?

well, one of her points was exactly that.....picking the thing up and putting it on the ground, but she seemed more adamantly against it because of the tugging and pulling aspect I guess can put alot more strain on the back.
 
My experience with pallet jacks is that they are very sensitive to the surface... On a smooth, well swept floor they aren't bad at all, but they will seriously give problems if there is any dirt or potholes on the surface Those little wheels up front don't need to hit much of anything to get hung up. Last place I worked we had more trouble with cut off zip ties...

I did have one time where I was getting a delivery from HF, and they sent the guy out in an 18 - someone missed the note to use a straight truck! He could have backed down the street (I've seen it done) but the driver opted not to deal with our narrow 1.5 lane dead end street, and we ended up bringing my package down on his pallet jack ~1/4 mile - NOT FUN!

Gooserider
 
My Quadra Fire dealer actually recommended softwood pellets in the Mt Vernon model.

Hmm. I'd like to get my two tons of pellets shoved into a garage bay. Maybe he'd be willing to put the forks with the pallet into the garage, just not very far beyond the threshold.

Waiting to hear from pelletsales out of Merrimack, NH, but there are some other locals out there who I trust. I suspect everybody's going to be in the low $200s with $25-$35 for delivery this Spring.

Perhaps supply/price will depend on stove sales this summer.
 
One other thing about my current dealer. His price right now (and for the past 6 months) is $255/ton delivered. If you pick up, the price is, well $255/ton. If you order over 4 tons, the price is $255/ton. However, if you buy by the bag, the price is $5.10/40lb bag (that's, let me see, oh yeah $255/ton). You can get hardwood (cubex) or softwood (Le Crete I think), either one is $255/ton.
 
PutnamJct said:
Harry,

Your customers are spoiled. :-)
I've done my fair share of delivery logistics on both sides of the coin (driver and dispatching the trucks for a huge furniture co down south) and know how much of a PITA sime of them can be.

My local dealer delivered 4 tons to me this afternoon. He uses a regular (old) box truck, 1 man and a pallet jack. He drops them in the driveway and off he goes. I can tell him where, draw a map or sketch out where I want them in the driveway if no one is going to be home but that is as far as they go. No over the hills and to the shed. If he can't back the truck up to where you want them, they aren't going there. They deliver to certain parts of the county on certain days and other parts on other days, no exceptions, and they will usually only book delivery's 1 week in advance.

They are the biggest dealer in the area and everybody in town goes to them first.

John

Hi putnamjct, my dealer does the same thing . He puts them in my garage . just pict up 6 tons, will deliver in three weeks at $210 a ton
 
alfio said:
PutnamJct said:
Harry,

Your customers are spoiled. :-)
I've done my fair share of delivery logistics on both sides of the coin (driver and dispatching the trucks for a huge furniture co down south) and know how much of a PITA sime of them can be.

My local dealer delivered 4 tons to me this afternoon. He uses a regular (old) box truck, 1 man and a pallet jack. He drops them in the driveway and off he goes. I can tell him where, draw a map or sketch out where I want them in the driveway if no one is going to be home but that is as far as they go. No over the hills and to the shed. If he can't back the truck up to where you want them, they aren't going there. They deliver to certain parts of the county on certain days and other parts on other days, no exceptions, and they will usually only book delivery's 1 week in advance.

They are the biggest dealer in the area and everybody in town goes to them first.

John

Hi putnamjct, my dealer does the same thing . He puts them in my garage . just pict up 6 tons, will deliver in three weeks at $210 a ton

What part of the country are you in? $210 including delivery seems to be a very fair price in my neck of the woods.
 
it is...at least in New England....$210/ton, including delivery is a great price, especially if they'll stack them where you want in the garage....although it does depend on the pellet........$210 for premium pellets is a good price.
 
I heard from pelletsales.com today.

Dear Michele,

We wanted to let you know that we haven't forgotten your quote.
We apologize for the delay - we had some technical glitches that
we've now resolved. We're generating quotes now and you should
be receiving yours in the next several days, if not sooner.
Thank you for your patience.




I plan on asking them what the max distance is that they will
split deliver an order. I already know I will need 3 tons
for myself, so if anyone near me is interested in going in
on an order pm me.

Oh, and the guy who delivered the pellets to my house said he
would have pushed the two skids into my garage, but there is
already so much stuff in there that my motorcycle and most everything
else I need to get at in the summer would have been trapped in
there so that was out...besides, the forklift was so huge that I don't
think it would have cleared my garage door anyway.
The delivery place for my area was out of Stoughton btw.

Like I said before, my experience with this outfit was outstanding
and I would recommend them to anyone.
 
what they can do, Zeta, is use the lift to push the pallet as far in as possible, then drop the pallet and back up until the forks are halfway out of the pallet, and push the skid in that way...can also use another skid of pellets to further advance the first one....in this manner, we can usually push 4-6 tons in a garage. Other things cause problems in doing so, such as rough floors, dirt floors...makes it hard to push the pellets. Usually tho, we can get it to a point where the doors will be able to be closed. Good luck with the pellets. A friend of mine got the same email...verbatim. I figure they'll come out with something soon.
 
This was the quote I got this week

Early-Buy Special Quotation (based on prior requests)

Quote # 00000 for Zip Code 10512 (CARMEL, NY)
Pickup Options
Product Brand Tons Scheduled For Fuel
($/Ton) Delivery
To Site ($/Ton) Tax Total Action
Wood Pellets (Premium) Greenway Premium 4 One Day Event (Early Buy Special Event)** $199.00 $5.00 $0.00 $816.00 Purchase
We recognize this is a long drive for you, but wanted to give you this option.
** This one day event is scheduled for 4/21/07.
Pickup location is in Newburgh, NY.
One day events are at the lowest possible price - no other discounts or credits may be applied.

Wood Pellets (Premium) Canadian Premium 4 One Day Event (Early Buy Special Event)** $219.00 $5.00 $0.00 $896.00 Purchase
We recognize this is a long drive for you, but wanted to give you this option.
Pickup location is in Newburgh, NY.
** This one day event is scheduled for 4/21/07.
One day events are at the lowest possible price - no other discounts or credits may be applied.


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Delivery Options
Product Brand Tons Scheduled For Fuel
($/Ton) Delivery
Charge ($/Ton) Tax Total Action
Wood Pellets (Premium) Greenway Premium 4 Early Buy Program (Apr-Jul) $199.00 $26.25 $0.00 $901.00 Purchase
Get our best pricing of the year by taking delivery during the off-season.

Wood Pellets (Premium) Greenway Premium 4 Early Buy (with storage until Aug-Sep) $219.00 $26.25 $0.00 $981.00 Purchase
With oil prices rising, why hunt for pellets during the typical fall rush? You can lock in low prices now on top quality product, and we will store it for you for the summer.

Wood Pellets (Premium) Canadian Premium 4 Early Buy Program (Apr-Jul) $219.00 $26.25 $0.00 $981.00 Purchase
Get our best pricing of the year by taking delivery during the off-season.

Wood Pellets (Premium) Canadian Premium 4 Early Buy (with storage until Aug-Sep) $239.00 $26.25 $0.00 $1,061.00 Purchase
With oil prices rising, why hunt for pellets during the typical fall rush? You can lock in low prices now on top quality product, and we will store it for you for the summer.

Wood Pellets (Premium) Quality 4.8 Early Buy Program (Apr-Jul) $219.00 $21.88 $0.00 $1,156.20 Purchase
Get our best pricing of the year by taking delivery during the off-season.
This product ships 1.2 tons per skid. You get 20% more product at the same price per bag.

Wood Pellets (Premium) Quality 4.8 Early Buy (with storage until Aug-Sep) $239.00 $21.88 $0.00 $1,252.20 Purchase
This product ships 1.2 tons per skid. You get 20% more product at the same price per bag.
With oil prices rising, why hunt for pellets during the typical fall rush? You can lock in low prices now on top quality product, and we will store it for you for the summer.

Your Sales Professional: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

For other quantities or locations, click here .
 
ow! that hurts my head trying to figure that out.....must be your formatting or something....

in MA, there isnt tax on pellets.

Those prices arent especially good either.
 
putnam, that is the same e-mail i recieved. (my delivery charge was slightly higher) i ordered 3 tons of canadian premium .
2 of my friends ordered the less expensive hardwoods. with the promo code , i will save another 15 dollars.
 
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