Performed surgery on my new stove.

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moresnow

Minister of Fire
Jan 13, 2015
2,181
Iowa
If those magnets are stuck directly to the firebox they may fail IMO. It will occur when they are super-hot. If they can fall/bounce into, onto the wrong surface you may reconsider using them other than for testing.

And yes I am speaking directly from experience _g
 
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Mirco22

Feeling the Heat
Jan 7, 2022
298
italy
Found another reason why this stove runs crazy. Pulled the jackets off the sides just for shots and giggles and found 3 more unregulated secondary holes on each side. I got some magnets I'm gonna play around with to see If I can get this thing to run with no damper. On a side note I always thought I saw smoke running out of the jacket on while I was loading and figured it was coming out the front door and working its way over there. Nope. Those 6 holes pour smoke when the door is open

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it makes no apparent sense. the jackets you removed should produce convection, i.e. heating and pushing air, with the holes the convection is damaged. Was this stove new?
 

Vg3200p

Minister of Fire
Nov 21, 2021
508
Clinton county indiana
Ok so mild night tonight. 40f. Blocked off 3 of the six holes hidden underneath jacket. Overall i have probably blocked of 80% of air that this stove could breath in its (low burn) setting. I truly don't know how they didn't literally melt the stoves when they tested this design. Stove is running exactly how I want now finally. I have primary open maybe 10% to keep flue temps up right now. So when it gets real cold again it should be about perfect with primary all the way closed. I still have the dampers just in case. Stt at 630 flue surface at 235 nice lazy secondaries.
 
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3650

Minister of Fire
May 8, 2011
877
midwest
Ok so mild night tonight. 40f. Blocked off 3 of the six holes hidden underneath jacket. Overall i have probably blocked of 80% of air that this stove could breath in its (low burn) setting. I truly don't know how they didn't literally melt the stoves when they tested this design. Stove is running exactly how I want now finally. I have primary open maybe 10% to keep flue temps up right now. So when it gets real cold again it should be about perfect with primary all the way closed. I still have the dampers just in case. Stt at 630 flue surface at 235 nice lazy secondaries.
Keep in mind when flue temps get below 250 creosote will form in the chimney. Especially if the wood isn’t dry enough.
 

brenndatomu

Minister of Fire
Aug 21, 2013
7,974
NE Ohio
If that 235* pipe temp is external (and I think it is) then it's fine
 

3650

Minister of Fire
May 8, 2011
877
midwest
Oh I thought it was single wall
 

Vg3200p

Minister of Fire
Nov 21, 2021
508
Clinton county indiana
This is single wall surface temp. At 18" so interior is probably 300 to 500f I've always heard 30 to 50% higher than surface reading
 

3650

Minister of Fire
May 8, 2011
877
midwest
This is single wall surface temp. At 18" so interior is probably 300 to 500f I've always heard 30 to 50% higher than surface reading
I thought that was for double wall but I’m probably confused. Carry on!
 

brenndatomu

Minister of Fire
Aug 21, 2013
7,974
NE Ohio
This is single wall surface temp. At 18" so interior is probably 300 to 500f I've always heard 30 to 50% higher than surface reading
At 235* on singlewall surface you are probably 475* ish internal...that'll do...
 

Vg3200p

Minister of Fire
Nov 21, 2021
508
Clinton county indiana
I ran the loads last night and tonight with the jackets off. Ran great. Put the jackets back on and I think it made the remaining open holes draft harder. It wasn't running away but hotter than what I would like with full air shutdown. So I covered a 4th hole partway into tonight's burn. She seems to run really well there. One good thing about this stove is that it always makes pretty secondaries that last a long long time. Dampers all the way open tonight. I suspect when really cold weather returns she'll be running with 1 closed but that's ok. 20230117_191532.jpg 20230117_191537.jpg
 

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