recent video posted about wood burning
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http://www.ec.gc.ca/cleanair-airpur/default.asp?lang=En&n=8011CD70-1
Just sent the link to a friend, so I had it handy.
Just sent the link to a friend, so I had it handy.
thats a pretty cool video, i just watched it myself, might have to post it on the burning issues site 
I didn't know Hot Lips Houlihan retired to Canada! Must be a little cold there, they seem a little stiff! 
Seriously.... Wow! Great video! Thanks!
Seriously.... Wow! Great video! Thanks!
I tried that silly tip about rolling a newspaper diagonally and tying it in a knot. It's magic--it really works good.
stoveguy2esw said:thats a pretty cool video, i just watched it myself, might have to post it on the burning issues site
I have been on that site several times. Don't think they will like it after all we are the bad guys.
Go for it - Post it - then give us the link to it.
stoveguy you mean this website? http://burningissues.org/car-www/index.html
derbygreg said:stoveguy2esw said:thats a pretty cool video, i just watched it myself, might have to post it on the burning issues site
I have been on that site several times. Don't think they will like it after all we are the bad guys.
Go for it - Post it - then give us the link to it.
stoveguy you mean this website? http://burningissues.org/car-www/index.html
yeah , smoke nazi central. they dont seem to care that they are advocating the very thing they are trying to stop (pollution)
ozarkjeep said:
The man in the video being so surprised by her instructions is John Gulland, pioneer of most of todays best practices for chimneys and for burning wood. Some suspect that he invented trees.
http://www.gulland.ca/abtjohn.htm
It had that quality of a bad porn, but held my intrest much longer.
Now I want to try that "knotted paper" trick sometime.
Now I want to try that "knotted paper" trick sometime.
What do you think of Hotlips' opinion that you shouldn't add a new log to a hot fire? She says it will smolder, and that instead you should wait until the fire burns down.
That hit me as a little strange too. If it is an active hot fire I think it will burn and not smolder. When I put new wood onto a weak bed of marginal coals it smolders (unless I put a wad of newspaper in). However, I have learned recently the value of letting your wood load/ fire go thru a complete burning cycle prior to adding wood. So there is truth in what she is trying to communicate.
I have been burning wood for more than 35 years and after watching that video suddenlly realized how little I truly knew about the whole process. Used to think that North-South was a reference to the Civil War, and East-West was us versus them Reds. Serioulsy it should be a must see for every wood-burner. Finally, some taxpayers money that isn`t wasted. :bug:
WarmGuy said:
I disagree - sometimes.
During very cold weather as soon as the flames go out and the temp starts to drop I'll rake up the stove full of coals and throw on a single split, let it burn down, then repeat 2 or three times to keep the heat output higher while the coals burn down. There is instant ignition and good secondary burn, no smoldering at all. It's a good way to keep the heat up while waiting for the next full reload.
Under normal circumstances I wouldn't recommend "feeding the fire", nor would I ever only throw a single split on a small pile of coals which is the point I believe she was trying to make.
WarmGuy said:
I'll give you my take on it...
I started out in my first season adding new wood every couple hours during the day. I noticed I was going though a lot of wood. I then bought some books on the subject and did some reading and came across the wood burning site in Canada. All the sources recommended letting the wood burn down to coals before adding in new wood. So the cycle is basically:
1) Cold stove start-up and add wood
2) Let the hot stove burn unmolested
3) When you just have coals left, add wood
4) Repeat steps 2-3 as needed for heat
What I do now is wait for my stove to burn down the visible logs into hot coals and begin to start going down in temp. Only then will I open the damper and add my wood up to full capacity. I'll then let it burn for a few minutes and engage the damper again and not bother it until it burns down. I don't wait though for the coals to get too cold. I like having them hot enough to rapidly ignite the new wood. Doing this I can run the stove for 10-12 hours on a low setting and burn a lot less wood in the process. It also makes managing the stove a lot easier because I don't feel the need to mess with it every couple of hours. Finally, by avoiding messing with the stove too frequently you produce a lot less smoke and have a cleaner burn as the fire box can stay hot for longer stretches of time.
At least that's my take on the issue. Any corrections welcome. I'm always looking to learn new tricks to save wood and make less smoke.
Heat Miser summarized it well. Depending on the size of your firebox this complete cycle can take anywhere from 6-12 hrs. Keep in mind this cycle can be shortened by using less than a full load of wood. On occasion, when I don't need maximum heat or the stove is out of sync with my sleep/work schedule, I will burn 2-3 splits quickly (usually full open) to satisfy my needs.
ron and heat have it right
i am new with my insert but what i have learned is if you keep adding (me) i end up with like 4-6 inches of hot coals which 1 takes away from how much i can add 2 is wasted energy
i let my coals burn down which reduces the amount of ash left but i will give it more air.. once it has burned down then i will do like above rake the coals to the front and put more splits in
i am new with my insert but what i have learned is if you keep adding (me) i end up with like 4-6 inches of hot coals which 1 takes away from how much i can add 2 is wasted energy
i let my coals burn down which reduces the amount of ash left but i will give it more air.. once it has burned down then i will do like above rake the coals to the front and put more splits in
I second heatmiser and Ron on this one. And for a bonus this works even for my older non-epa PE insert. Going thru way less wood,so much less that I am really feeling stupid for having been a wood-burner for so many years and not figuring this out for myself. And the tying newspaper thing really does work! Damn good production that video is. Just goes to show that not all of us Canucks are semi-comitose. ;-)
Those Canadians know what there are doing when it comes to heating with wood. I got a top down fire started in minutes, secondary burn and all. No smoke with a box full of flames with just the paper bow tie idea as starter. This video is great!!
http://www.ec.gc.ca/cleanair-airpur/default.asp?lang=En&n=8011CD70-1
http://www.ec.gc.ca/cleanair-airpur/default.asp?lang=En&n=8011CD70-1
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