Well if their sales fall off they’re going to have to spend more money on ways to reduce the prices.
Rough year for small stove companies
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I would think they still have the blueprints from previous designs that passed the prior certification. Why couldn't they just go back to them? This is assuming a rollback at the EPA to the prior testing standard as well, which seems unlikely.
Yeah you’re right but I don’t think they had to radically change the stove design on the 500 like they did on the F400. Look at all the models they make over in Europe, probably 50 or so? All clean burning yet they can sell only 5 here?
I think the EPA went a little bonkers with their regs over the years. I doubt you can tell the difference between 7gph and 2gph coming out a stack side by side. If some manufacturers want to design a stove to run under 1gph more power to them but don’t force every other manufacturer to go that same route when it’s really not making a difference in my opinion.
As a buyer of a currently produced pre-epa model chainsaw I can assure you that they have the blueprints and probably even the old jigs to bang out older model stoves. The really good ones. Doubtful that anybody will bring back the horrible VC from the 2000s but there were some really nice stove models from different manufacturers that were a shame to see go. They're not starting from scratch.
EbS-P
Minister of Fire
Emissions regulations for wood stoves won’t be repealed. There just not enough money in that industry IMO.
The news around here was abuzz with the news that the average electric bill was going to go up $30 this year, and more increases the next 2 years. NG is supposed to go up too. I fully expect that with all fees added in I’ll be paying 30c/kwh if not more.
Whitenuckler
Minister of Fire
I think we are at 17c/kwh CAD, but like you say, with the long list of extra charges and taxes make mine 21c/kwh right now.
I get a 10% energy rebate otherwise it would be more
NJ electric rates have gone bonkers the past couple years. It’s great. My summer bills have doubled in price.
I get to WHINE the loudest
My MA National Grid effective rate is 33.7 cents/kWh and that's with a cheaper alternate energy supplier. Most in my area are paying even more.
MA is excessively expensive (we are told) for the following reason:
"Massachusetts has only a few supply pipelines, and during peak demand periods—especially in winter when heating needs surge—there is not enough capacity to meet the region’s growing demands. This supply bottleneck causes natural gas prices to spike, which in turn raises electricity prices. Without sufficient pipeline capacity to bring in enough natural gas, power plants face higher fuel costs, which are passed on to consumers in the form of higher electricity rates."
To put it simply "There are too many dang people out here" and I'm one of them
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Why is electricity so $$ in MA
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