Seeking inexpensive 75%+ stove

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Casbeck

Member
Aug 7, 2007
16
WA state
I'm grateful for this thread; shopping now for small, simple efficient stove. Budget is super tight. I was looking for used stoves on CL and FB, but also want efficiency.

Can any of you spot the least expensive option on the EPA list, small?https://cfpub.epa.gov/oarweb/woodstove/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.searchResults

So many manufacturers don't list prices, and I'm exhausted from contacting dealers. Some are not aware of this credit yet. One tried to sell me a Country stove, now IronStrike brand, Tahoma 1600. Told me it's EPA efficiency rating is 75%, but on database it's only 70%.

This stove is for a split level remodel, will be secondary heat source (also shopping for a heat pump mini-split).

Thanks in advance. I love this site/forum!
 

begreen

Mooderator
Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
89,548
South Puget Sound, WA
Moved the inquiry to its own thread.

What size stove? How large an area will the stove be heating? The Pleasant Hearth GWS-2200 is probably the cheapest stove on this list.
 

Highbeam

Minister of Fire
Dec 28, 2006
19,149
Mt. Rainier Foothills, WA
I'm grateful for this thread; shopping now for small, simple efficient stove. Budget is super tight. I was looking for used stoves on CL and FB, but also want efficiency.

Can any of you spot the least expensive option on the EPA list, small?https://cfpub.epa.gov/oarweb/woodstove/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.searchResults

So many manufacturers don't list prices, and I'm exhausted from contacting dealers. Some are not aware of this credit yet. One tried to sell me a Country stove, now IronStrike brand, Tahoma 1600. Told me it's EPA efficiency rating is 75%, but on database it's only 70%.

This stove is for a split level remodel, will be secondary heat source (also shopping for a heat pump mini-split).

Thanks in advance. I love this site/forum!

You may be in my part of the state. Country brand was made in Auburn for many years and established a strong local following.

Good for you for finding the EPA database so that you can call BS on the marketing/dealer's misleading tactics. That's an important benefit of the EPA list.
 
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kennyp2339

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Feb 16, 2014
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I just helped a friend put in a Englander 2000 sq ft stove (I believe its called the madison) $899 at homedepot. I was impressed with the stoves construction, pretty heavy duty and the door by far blew me away (much much better then the old 17vl) The only thing I didnt like was the cheapo blower, but there's an upgrade option for that to from Englander) Firebox size seemed ok, can fit up to 20" splits n/s loading and it has a 2 - 3" belly so ash wont have to be scooped out for at least 5 days depending how hard your running it.
 

theora55

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Mar 8, 2008
59
Southern Maine
I'm grateful for this thread; shopping now for small, simple efficient stove. Budget is super tight. I was looking for used stoves on CL and FB, but also want efficiency.

Can any of you spot the least expensive option on the EPA list, small?https://cfpub.epa.gov/oarweb/woodstove/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.searchResults

So many manufacturers don't list prices, and I'm exhausted from contacting dealers. Some are not aware of this credit yet. One tried to sell me a Country stove, now IronStrike brand, Tahoma 1600. Told me it's EPA efficiency rating is 75%, but on database it's only 70%.

This stove is for a split level remodel, will be secondary heat source (also shopping for a heat pump mini-split).

Thanks in advance. I love this site/forum!
 

begreen

Mooderator
Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
89,548
South Puget Sound, WA
I just helped a friend put in a Englander 2000 sq ft stove (I believe its called the madison) $899 at homedepot. I was impressed with the stoves construction, pretty heavy duty and the door by far blew me away (much much better then the old 17vl) The only thing I didnt like was the cheapo blower, but there's an upgrade option for that to from Englander) Firebox size seemed ok, can fit up to 20" splits n/s loading and it has a 2 - 3" belly so ash wont have to be scooped out for at least 5 days depending how hard your running it.
That is 74% efficient. It just misses the mark for the tax credit.
 

kennyp2339

Minister of Fire
Feb 16, 2014
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That is 74% efficient. It just misses the mark for the tax credit.
ohhhhhhh, and they did a pretty good job with that stove, my friend is very happy with the purchase
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
89,548
South Puget Sound, WA
ohhhhhhh, and they did a pretty good job with that stove, my friend is very happy with the purchase
Yeah, it's pretty irritating that one percent difference disqualifies it for the credit, especially when the changeout could be magnitudes cleaner than an old stove.
 

Caw

Minister of Fire
May 26, 2020
958
Massachusetts
You could be me and get that sweet sweet $300 for my 2019 install lol. Hey it's free money but does sting a bit to miss the better credit.
 

Casbeck

Member
Aug 7, 2007
16
WA state
Moved the inquiry to its own thread.

What size stove? How large an area will the stove be heating? The Pleasant Hearth GWS-2200 is probably the cheapest stove on this list.

THANK you, I wasn't aware of the Pleasant Hearth brand, sold at Big Box stores. I can get this stove at ACE Hardware for under 1K, plus with a coupon, maybe free delivery!

Searching for reviews potential issues with such an inexpensive stove...
WOW: this intake issue. https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/pleasant-hearth-ws-2417-outside-air-intake-build.182865/
 
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Casbeck

Member
Aug 7, 2007
16
WA state
I'm grateful for this thread; shopping now for small, simple efficient stove. Budget is super tight. I was looking for used stoves on CL and FB, but also want efficiency.

Can any of you spot the least expensive option on the EPA list, small?https://cfpub.epa.gov/oarweb/woodstove/index.cfm?fuseaction=app.searchResults

So many manufacturers don't list prices, and I'm exhausted from contacting dealers. Some are not aware of this credit yet. One tried to sell me a Country stove, now IronStrike brand, Tahoma 1600. Told me it's EPA efficiency rating is 75%, but on database it's only 70%.

This stove is for a split level remodel, will be secondary heat source (also shopping for a heat pump mini-split).

Thanks in advance. I love this site/forum!

Our main floor is 1500 sq ft. It's in a large (for us) open plan living room 500-700 sq ft. Other areas are bedrooms.

I wonder why so many of the stoves on the EPA 75% efficiency list are large...
 

Das Jugghead

Burning Hunk
Jan 2, 2019
155
Indiana
THANK you, I wasn't aware of the Pleasant Hearth brand, sold at Big Box stores. I can get this stove at ACE Hardware for under 1K, plus with a coupon, maybe free delivery!

Searching for reviews potential issues with such an inexpensive stove...
WOW: this intake issue. https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/pleasant-hearth-ws-2417-outside-air-intake-build.182865/

Yes be advised that Pleasant Hearth's production and quality control is garbage and their customer service is even worse. That being said if you have some mechanical skills, time, and patience you can make the stove work but if I had it to do over again I would steer clear of Pleasant Hearth.
 

Casbeck

Member
Aug 7, 2007
16
WA state
Yes be advised that Pleasant Hearth's production and quality control is garbage and their customer service is even worse. That being said if you have some mechanical skills, time, and patience you can make the stove work but if I had it to do over again I would steer clear of Pleasant Hearth.

thank you. Makes sense. Get what you pay for. Most stoves I’ve looked into start at $2k.

Any 75% stoves around $1500?
Thanks
 

JohnWW

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Jul 8, 2019
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THANK you, I wasn't aware of the Pleasant Hearth brand, sold at Big Box stores. I can get this stove at ACE Hardware for under 1K, plus with a coupon, maybe free delivery!

Searching for reviews potential issues with such an inexpensive stove...
WOW: this intake issue. https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/pleasant-hearth-ws-2417-outside-air-intake-build.182865/
The 2200 with the blower is 950 with 11% mail in store credit at Menards. With the 26% tax credit, that is a good deal, if the thing is half decent. It says it is made in the US, which is something at least.
 

bholler

Chimney sweep
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Jan 14, 2014
25,484
central pa
Also keep in mind a decent insulated flexible stainless steel liner will add another $500 plus any installation costs if you don't do it yourself.
$500 for about the cheapest option for a liner that could possibly work. I can't even buy the stuff I use for that price