Stove recommendations for yurt

[BandJfiore]

Hi,
We are putting up a 30 ft yurt G-d willing. It will have reflectix insulation and a teeny bit more insulation to raise r-value. Not a lot all things considered.
Wondering if i should consider a masonry stove with mass (can make a cob sculpture that is both functional as furniture and mass for heating, plus an oven), or a soapstone of the Hearthstone variety, or a Woodstock steel hybrid, or…
We have up to $3,000 in budget, are in the Catskills, NY, and would like the most efficient stove possible that is easy on the eyes. Will be using stove for cooking in colder weather either as a cooktop or oven (depending upon kind of stove) Both would rock but size is a factor too given it is a yurt.
Thanks!
Brad and Chana

 

[Ashful]

Your primary cooking source, or just for fun? Plenty of cookstoves will throw big heat, but not at $3k. Likewise, you can cook beans in a pan on a steel EPA stove, but making daily dinner on one isn't going to be practical.

 

[byQ]

There is an interesting movement starting. It is the crossing of a masonry heater with a rocket stove - and these stoves can be made with a cook top. A regular masonry heater has an inner layer (firebrick) and an outer layer (usually common brick). But these hybrid designs have only one layer - just the firebrick layer (like a rocket stove) and maybe a thin coat of stucco.

But they have a door like a masonry heater. From what I've seen they are smaller then traditional masonry heaters. They heat up faster but cool down faster, too.

The original model is called the cabin stove (see the link). But some masons have been trying to improve on this design by using rocket stove and masonry heater concepts. The tricky part is the stove top. The heat can be so high there that it can warp metal.

www.naturalbuildingblog.com/cabin-stove-small-masonry-heater-aprovecho-research-center/

 

[BandJfiore]

Ashful, so in the winter i do most of my cooking now on top of my old Country stove in my current home. We make do and as desired use it as a sort of oven to bake via covered cast iron pots. Not so much for fun as living lean. So though cooking is key, i don't expect to have or even want an actual wood fired cooking stove if that makes sense. i want the most efficient heating wood stove that i can also cook on or in as a secondary use.

Funny byQ, i was planning to build a rocket stove mass heater in the yurt but was told it just won't be able to handle the expanse of the yurt given the high ceilings and poor insulation. i am intrigued by the hybrid you mention above. i'll look into it. Thanks!

 

[begreen]

You'll want some excess horsepower if you will be living year round in the yurt. Have you been following the thread with the Ideal Steel just installed in a yurt? Does your budget include the chimney installation or is that separate?

 

[Ashful]

Re: baking. Inside the stove, or Dutch oven placed on top?

Hard to beat an Englander 30 for hp/$, but the convection deck on top would make cooking difficult.

 

[BrotherBart]

Hard to beat an Englander 30 for hp/$, but the convection deck on top would make cooking difficult.

What convection deck?

 

[BandJfiore]

Begreen, no, we didn't see that thread, but coincidentally we were leaning towards a Woodstock hybrid, albeit the progressive rather than the ideal. Will check out that thread. Appreciate the heads up about it.

Ashful i'll look into the Englander 30. Thanks!

 

[Ashful]

What convection deck?

Hah... I've always looked at photos of that stepped top, and just assumed it was a convection deck. Now I pull up some hi-res images, and see it's not that at all. What's the purpose of that step?

 

[BrotherBart]

The step bend strengthens the top to prevent warping. It has a 1/4" top plate. Most of the stove builders use a step bend in the 1/4" top plates and 5/16" for the flat tops.

An advantage for the stove top cookers out there is on the 30 the top above the bend runs hotter than the lower step.

 

[begreen]

Begreen, no, we didn't see that thread, but coincidentally we were leaning towards a Woodstock hybrid, albeit the progressive rather than the ideal. Will check out that thread. Appreciate the heads up about it.

Ashful i'll look into the Englander 30. Thanks!

I like the idea of a cat stove in a yurt, especially if it's the sole heating source. Mild weather heating should be easier. The Progress Hybrid would also work, but due to the budget I suggest looking at the IS. Does the budget include the chimney or is that already installed?