The VC is gone. Now what?


New Member
Nov 12, 2019
Newfield, NY
He never even installed the defiant.
It's true. The installers had no clue what they were doing. Found out later they had only installed one wood stove before. They were a propane company. After getting some advice here, I decided the Defiant was too risky and they took it back. They gave me a good deal on propane for my trouble!
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New Member
Nov 12, 2019
Newfield, NY
This is what we've chosen. We've been told it will be installed the first week of March. I'm a bit skeptical, but I'll let y'all know how it goes.

One more question: What's the deal with the cord wood vs. EPA BTUs listed?

Summit Classic LE

Heat Output Cord Wood (BTU)99,000 BTU
Heat Output EPA (BTU)41,275 BTU
Emissions1.8 gm/hr
Firebox Size3.0 cu.ft.
Log Size (recommended)18 in.
Log Size (max.)20 in.
Burn Time (max.) 10 hrs


Staff member
Nov 18, 2005
South Puget Sound, WA
What used to be affectionately called "whorehouse red" by the locals when Roospike showed up with the first red Summit.

Woody Stover

Minister of Fire
Dec 25, 2010
Southern IN
The red has really darkened up to a nice brick red.
Oh, cool! >> My Keystone in metallic blue mellowed to pretty much a medium gray color; I didn't know the PE would do that as well. My SIL's enamel T5 in brown didn't change, that I could see. I see that on the new 2020 LE version, they now offer the Sunset Red.
Not sure why they don't offer the T6 in enamel..?

mark cline

Minister of Fire
Dec 20, 2012
Cattaraugus, NY
Very nice looking stove and unique hearth protection. Beautiful to say the least.