Tiny wood stoves?

[emt1581]

I see yall talking about these supercedars....I actually use this gel that I got at walmart....works amazing! And no build up or any problems with it.

-Emt1581

 

[firecracker_77]

I see yall talking about these supercedars....I actually use this gel that I got at walmart....works amazing! And no build up or any problems with it.

-Emt1581

SuperCedars are an inexpensive firestarter. I think each fire costs around 15 cents to start. Just alot easier then screwing around with newspaper and kindling. I'm sure there are other good firestarters too. These are cheap and easy.

 

[fishingpol]

The Jotul F-100 Nordic may work for you. It is a good little heater, just short burn times.
The Jotul F3 is around 26" with short legs, maybe too tight.

I had the VC Aspen as my first stove. The air intake lever control is on the left rear top of the stove. It was difficult to reach in the back and set it properly. I also found since it was thermostatically controlled by a bi-metallic coil, it prematurely closed the air intake down as the bricks in the fireplace retained a lot of heat. It always seemed to run with a partially closed air intake because of this.

My dad just bought a new 602 to replace his 1976 era 602. It is a nice heater for their application. I've seen F-100's for $500 and under on CL.

 

[begreen]

Wait...am I thinking of gas...in regard to not needing a liner??

I know I heard it somewhere. LP would just be my last resort as it is not nearly as off the grid as wood is.

??? Thinking gas?

 

[emt1581]

??? Thinking gas?

Yes, I ran this by the guy at the local stove shop last year and I'm thinking it was maybe LP that did not need a liner so long as the chimney was clay.

I'm still looking at the Jotul, I just was thinking I didn't need a liner.

-Emt1581

 

[Woody Stover]

??? Thinking gas?

No one wants to have gas, do they?

Well, it should have a full liner, especially if this is an exterior chimney. How tall is the clay tile liner, what are it's inner dimensions and what condition is it in?

Yeah, if the clay liner is in good shape, you can just run liner up that far if the clay liner is not real huge. The downside is that the chimney is harder to clean unless you have a stainless liner to the top. Might be stinky, too. Full liner's not cheap though...unless you buy mine in the classifieds. Of course if you are seldom burning that stove, it's not going to get gunked up too fast, providing your wood is nice and dry.

(broken link removed to http://www.woodstove.com/pages/guidepdfs/Masonry%20Chimneys.pdf)

 

[begreen]

Yes, I ran this by the guy at the local stove shop last year and I'm thinking it was maybe LP that did not need a liner so long as the chimney was clay.

I'm still looking at the Jotul, I just was thinking I didn't need a liner.

-Emt1581

Can you provide more details on the chimney per my prior post?

 

[emt1581]

No one wants to have gas, do they?

Yeah, if the clay liner is in good shape, you can just run liner up that far if the clay liner is not real huge. The downside is that the chimney is harder to clean unless you have a stainless liner to the top. Might be stinky, too. Full liner's not cheap though...unless you buy mine in the classifieds. Of course if you are seldom burning that stove, it's not going to get gunked up too fast, providing your wood is nice and dry.

(broken link removed to http://www.woodstove.com/pages/guidepdfs/Masonry%20Chimneys.pdf)

Yeah, I was trying to do this on the cheap. I know how expensive liners can be. Mine was as expensive (or was it more) than the damn stove....and the installation was another kick in the pants!!

However, the results are amazing and long lasting to boot!

But again, we don't have as much money to throw around now so I was trying to do this without spending much.

-Emt1581

 

[emt1581]

Can you provide more details on the chimney per my prior post?

I think it is a 6" square chimney....not sure on other dimensions as I had it checked a few years ago.

-Emt1581

 

[begreen]

Have a professional sweep check it out. If it is in great condition with no cracked tiles and mortar intact, it could be direct connected with a stub going a couple feet above the damper and with a damper-sealed block off plate. It won't be much fun to clean, but it may draft well. If you do a liner, I'd go 5". That's closer to the actual flue outlet size.

 

[Huntindog1]

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/general-questions-about-brands.80541/#post-1028290

 

[Dustin]

My 602 ran me 750 bucks brand new. You won't get real long burn times, but short hot fires will heat the stove up real fast. The cast iron seems to retain the heat for a long while as well.

I think your draft will be just fine. My 602 is flex to the stove and then rigid SS to the top of the 30 foot chimney. It drafts so hard I installed a damper near the stove.

Good looking stove for the money



My stove...

 

[begreen]

Thanks for the picture Dustin. With a setup like that I think I would be running with the damper closed except at startup. A 5" liner will help restrain the draft a bit here.

 

[thetraindork]

how much is the 602? that would be perfect to heat part of my house.

 

[begreen]

They used to be around a thousand. Call a local dealer to get current pricing.

 

[emt1581]

They used to be around a thousand. Call a local dealer to get current pricing.

It was shared they can be had for $750-ish. Do/can stoves actually get...cheaper? That word is just not used a lot when it comes to anything stove...

Thanks

-Emt1581

 

[emt1581]

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30 deep x20wide and 2ft. high.

Not sure what brand'model this is but any thoughts?

Thanks

-Emt1581

 

[begreen]

Sounds like Dustin got a pretty good score. $750 is a good price for the west coast. Prices tend to be higher in peak season so I would expect $800-1000. Call around to some Jotul dealers and let us know what they say.

 

[emt1581]

Not sure if I posted while you were posting there begreen but any thoughts on the stove I posted? There are a few of them for sale in the area.

Thanks

-Emt1581

 

[begreen]

Pass. You want a small stove right?

 

[emt1581]

Pass. You want a small stove right?

Hmm, the guy said the measurements were as I posted. They seem like they'd work but yeah it'd be sideways in the fireplace which would look weird I guess.

Thanks

-Emt1581

 

[Dunragit]

Have you looked at the Morso Squirrel?

 

[emt1581]

Have you looked at the Morso Squirrel?

Not sure of their price but it's similar to the Jotul size-wise.

Thanks

-Emt1581

 

[Dunragit]

the Squirrel is more upright and not deep

 

[emt1581]

I remeasured. The opening is actually 26.75" high. And the hearth out in front is 13" so that's a pretty decent depth to work with. Unfortunately, the height is the challenge...

Thanks

-Emt1581