Update: Stove install - Jotul 404

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Jordan

Member
Apr 25, 2018
52
emmett, idaho
Thanks for everyone’s input and posting on this site. Truly the best source for my install. Here are some photos to share and hopefully aid someone else in the future. Stove is a Jotul 404.
Rear Through wall install and then through soffit. Required custom brackets on exterior. Roof pitch is 11/12.
I custom made the wall panels. Steel sheet that I hand hammered totally 80
Hours.
Been using the stove exclusively for heat, cooking, and baking all winter.
 

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Jordan

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Apr 25, 2018
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emmett, idaho
Exterior and pipe install.
 

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webby3650

Master of Fire
Sep 2, 2008
11,062
Indiana
Looks nice! I missed out on a 404 locally a little while back. They only wanted $125 for and it looks pretty nice.. ohh well.
 
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moresnow

Minister of Fire
Jan 13, 2015
1,849
Iowa
Nice setup. Guessing you have installed pipe support braces since these pics? Nice place!
 

Grizzerbear

Minister of Fire
Feb 12, 2019
1,175
SW Missoura
Man thats a nice set up....and nuthin like vittles on the stove. Did you install....if so even better mustache my friend.
 

Jordan

Member
Apr 25, 2018
52
emmett, idaho
Looks nice! I missed out on a 404 locally a little while back. They only wanted $125 for and it looks pretty nice.. ohh well.
Thats a steal at that price.

I lucked out on this stove. Got it before buying the property I built the house on. Took 6 years to get to this point. The stove was brand new....never installed or fired up.
 
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xman23

Minister of Fire
Oct 7, 2008
2,352
Lackawaxen PA
That's cool. I assuming this is not the cooking stove you use every day, I to designed and built my cabin. One of the nicest things was to design the stove to be the focal point in a large room.
 

Jordan

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Apr 25, 2018
52
emmett, idaho
That's cool. I assuming this is not the cooking stove you use every day, I to designed and built my cabin. One of the nicest things was to design the stove to be the focal point in a large room.
In the winter months it does all our baking, cooking, and heating.

This is our primary residence. Not a big house at 742 square feet. Although this stove lives in a space with 1.5 stories and open vault.
 

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SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
6,288
Downeast Maine
Looks awesome! I love these little 404's
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
6,616
Northern NH
Looking good, I have one I plan to be using some day. The going rate out east for these are $1000 to $1500. There is one on Ebay currently listed for $1300. I am surprised you can heat the house with it, you need to be patient as the firebox is pretty small, great for cooking but not so good for long burns.

Does your have the cast iron device shown in the loading door? (this is a screen grab from a current Ebay listing). Mine came with one but its not shown in the parts break down. Its probably is a secondary air baffle but would further limit the size of piece of wood that would fit in the firebox. Its designed to swing up but when its in the up position it will slide out of the tabs and possibly end up on the floor.

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Jordan

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Apr 25, 2018
52
emmett, idaho
Looking good, I have one I plan to be using some day. The going rate out east for these are $1000 to $1500. There is one on Ebay currently listed for $1300. I am surprised you can heat the house with it, you need to be patient as the firebox is pretty small, great for cooking but not so good for long burns.

Does your have the cast iron device shown in the loading door? (this is a screen grab from a current Ebay listing). Mine came with one but its not shown in the parts break down. Its probably is a secondary air baffle but would further limit the size of piece of wood that would fit in the firebox. Its designed to swing up but when its in the up position it will slide out of the tabs and possibly end up on the floor.

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The limited size of the firebox does make for some planning. Ive found that the compressed logs you can buy last much longer and maintain a hot coal afterwards. I break one in half and put it in at night. With kids I got to get up at some point anyways. Mind you its not the best option for heat alone but add the benefit of Cooking and Baking each day and Its hard to be upset. Since my house is small and half of the year it wont be in use spending 4-5 times more on an ESSE doesnt make sense. Theres not many options in a small footprint and I have an affinity to cast stoves.

If I ever get the chance for an addition I will add another stove. Already have a Jotul 606 for that need.

My stove did not include that device and is not in the parts diagram. I wondered what those dovetails were for and intended to do some research. Not sure how it is a secondary air baffle? Looks more like a brace to keep the door from falling open. My guess for loading the stove from above since you can get larger pieces in that way. Maybe for coal burning which would explain why Its not included or in the USA manual.

There is no "going rate" for these out west. They almost don't exist out here. Its extremely rare to find one listed.

Ive got a growing supply of stoves so I understand having a few lay around. Currently up to 8 in waiting.
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
6,616
Northern NH
They do tend to be rare even out East, they were imported by Krista Associates to Gorham Maine prior to Krista being forced to sell out Jotul USA. One claim is they only brought one load over. I had been keeping an eye out for years and they would get snapped up quick. I at one point was in touch with a guy in southern NH. he grabs the good looking ones, clean them up and sells them as decorations to interior designers restoring homes in the richer areas of Massachusetts where they are lot of older homes that had wood stoves at one point. He would pay up to $1600. He wouldn't tell me how much he sold them for but I think it was in excess of 2K.

There is currently the one on Ebay and one was on Craigslist in western NY a couple of weeks ago. Great minds think alike as I have a 606 sitting in my basement waiting for a future use that I inherited. A FYI, typically a wood cook stove doesn't need a rating plate but a woodstove does to keep the insurance guys happy. I don't think a 606 has one as it too was only imported a short length of time back in the 1980s.

That piece just pivots on top. If you push a small piece of wood against the bottom it swings up into the fire box so you can load a split in. Unfortunately if you lift up on it while its swung up it is not limited in travel and might fall off the ledge and on the floor. The guy I bought it from claimed it was for coal but he had never run it. There are casting numbers on it but they don't cross over to the manual.

By the way one of the online suppliers still sold a grate for it as of few years ago. Mine had a crack and wanted to get one before they went out of stock. I expect the demand for parts is pretty slim.
 

begreen

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Nov 18, 2005
90,628
South Puget Sound, WA
Sweet little stove. It's nice to see it got a good home. You've done well.
 
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Jordan

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Apr 25, 2018
52
emmett, idaho
@peakbagger My insurance company just wanted the final approval from the State Inspector and a photo.

I have an extra bottom grate for the burn chamber. Is that what you mean? I bought the 606 and to my surprise there was a brand new 404 grate inside.
 

peakbagger

Minister of Fire
Jul 11, 2008
6,616
Northern NH
Yup, its the rectangular cast iron slotted grate. Mine looked good but it had a crack in one of the slot bars. My new grate came with warning to "season" the grate by heating and cooling it in an oven.