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thewoodlands

Minister of Fire
Aug 25, 2009
13,587
Foothills of The Adirondacks
I took two damaged Maples, the first was rotting from the top down and the second from the base up. I hauled two loads of rounds and the third was some limb wood from one of the trees.
 

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thewoodlands

Minister of Fire
Aug 25, 2009
13,587
Foothills of The Adirondacks
Two more trailer loads of Maple came out today.

In picture 1861 you can see the two topped off Maple, 1862 is just a picture, 1863 is the first Maple down, 1864 is the Maple heading to a ridge, 1867 is the second Maple, 1868 is the Maple heading home, and 1869 is heading up to the ridge out of the woods.
 

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thewoodlands

Minister of Fire
Aug 25, 2009
13,587
Foothills of The Adirondacks
Earlier in May I started to fell some Beech and then some Maple, the splitting and stacking should start next week. The Beech and Maple either was topped off or rotting at the base so it was time to take them. Hopefully I can get more Maple out tomorrow and Friday.

I'm hoping for two or three face cord of Beech and one or two face cord of Maple de[pending on how much more Maple I get out.

For this year we have 24 face cord of Ash ready (we burn 12) and 3 face cord of American Hophornbeam or Ironwood.
 

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clancey

Minister of Fire
Feb 26, 2021
708
Colorado
Don't overdo it now you will have shoulder problems---looks so beautiful and I see that you have your little trailer matching the color of your blue jeep looking vehical...I also see the moon in one of those pictures--working late...ha...Nice pictures thanks..clancey
 
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moresnow

Minister of Fire
Jan 13, 2015
1,679
Iowa
Two more trailer loads of Maple came out today.

In picture 1861 you can see the two topped off Maple, 1862 is just a picture, 1863 is the first Maple down, 1864 is the Maple heading to a ridge, 1867 is the second Maple, 1868 is the Maple heading home, and 1869 is heading up to the ridge out of the woods.
You have a very manageable timber for this time of year. Mine is already wall to wall, chest high undergrowth. No fun for scrounging. Ticks galore as well.
 

thewoodlands

Minister of Fire
Aug 25, 2009
13,587
Foothills of The Adirondacks
Don't overdo it now you will have shoulder problems---looks so beautiful and I see that you have your little trailer matching the color of your blue jeep looking vehical...I also see the moon in one of those pictures--working late...ha...Nice pictures thanks..clancey
You have a very manageable timber for this time of year. Mine is already wall to wall, chest high undergrowth. No fun for scrounging. Ticks galore as well.
Everything should start changing here with our temps jumping up, I haven't pulled off or seen any ticks yet but I'm sure that time is coming.

Pretty soon it will be time for some rides in the boat and trail maintenance along with taking care of the tops.
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,848
Downeast Maine
Took down five decent sized balsam fir trees today. @MissMac I tried the bore cut on the three larger trees and really liked it. The only problem I had was the saw getting pinched due to the tension from the skidding winch. Both times I just used the MS150 to finish cutting the "holding wood". The third tree went down with the 460 trapped and landed right on the bar. I'm torn between a 16 and 18" bar to replace the bent 20" bar. Just going to break one or two of my 20" loops into whatever size I end up with.
 

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kennyp2339

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Feb 16, 2014
5,760
07462
I tried the bore cut on the three larger trees and really liked it.
Hey after the bore cut is made you can slid 2 wedges on either side of the bore, give it a wack and that will pre-load the wood so when you hit the back hold wood it will go forward towards the notch, eliminating the need for the winch, unless its a heavy leaner and you need to coach the tree forward.
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,848
Downeast Maine
Hey after the bore cut is made you can slid 2 wedges on either side of the bore, give it a wack and that will pre-load the wood so when you hit the back hold wood it will go forward towards the notch, eliminating the need for the winch, unless its a heavy leaner and you need to coach the tree forward.
I used the winch because all five trees had sweep or were leaning towards the house. Generally if the tree is under 12" DBH I don't really involve the winch, unless it is really close to the house or otherwise spooky. Good tip on the wedges though, could probably have saved my bar from getting pinched and ultimately trashed.
 

EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
727
SE North Carolina
I used the winch because all five trees had sweep or were leaning towards the house. Generally if the tree is under 12" DBH I don't really involve the winch, unless it is really close to the house or otherwise spooky. Good tip on the wedges though, could probably have saved my bar from getting pinched and ultimately trashed.
Look up back cut first for pulling a tree off it’s lean. Makes a lot of sense. Make your back, cut set wedges and a bit of tension. Make under cut. Wedge / Pull it over. I’m not gonna practice that one for the first time near my house. I think you made out just fine with just a bent bar. 16” replacement lighter is better. Just my thoughts from a completely inexperienced but well read desk/white board jockey.
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SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,848
Downeast Maine
Look up back cut first for pulling a tree off it’s lean. Makes a lot of sense. Make your back, cut set wedges and a bit of tension. Make under cut. Wedge / Pull it over. I’m not gonna practice that one for the first time near my house. I think you made out just fine with just a bent bar. 16” replacement lighter is better. Just my thoughts from a completely inexperienced but well read desk/white board jockey.
Evan
I've tried putting tension on the tree before cutting the hinge, but it's hard on the saw to cut the hinge. Perhaps wedges don't put as much tension as the winch, so could be something to add to the arsenal of knowledge. With the winch I'll probably stick to normal back cuts in the future and do the bore cut when I'm not using the winch.

I ordered a NOS Total Super Bar (TsuMura) in 16" 3/8 .058", which was a lot harder to find than I would have imagined. It seems most 16" and shorter bars in in .325 or 3/8lp. If the 3/8lp I'm using on the mill holds up well I might even try it out for cross cutting duty. For now I'll break one of the 72dl 3/8 loops and make it into a 60dl. A few weeks ago I ordered a 16" bar for the mill saw as well, but it was somehow easy to find an OEM Husqvarna 16" .050" 3/8 bar for a large mount saw. That Archer 3/8lp comes with some very ugly cutters, which I found out the hard way when testing an 84dl loop on a 6x6 tamarack cant. The chain cuts probably 20% faster with less waste and it cleaned up very well with the grinder. Today I made a 60dl loop and cleaned it up along with the first 84dl loop. I
 
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EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
727
SE North Carolina
I've tried putting tension on the tree before cutting the hinge, but it's hard on the saw to cut the hinge. Perhaps wedges don't put as much tension as the winch, so could be something to add to the arsenal of knowledge. With the winch I'll probably stick to normal back cuts in the future and do the bore cut when I'm not using the winch.

I ordered a NOS Total Super Bar (TsuMura) in 16" 3/8 .058", which was a lot harder to find than I would have imagined. It seems most 16" and shorter bars in in .325 or 3/8lp. If the 3/8lp I'm using on the mill holds up well I might even try it out for cross cutting duty. For now I'll break one of the 72dl 3/8 loops and make it into a 60dl. A few weeks ago I ordered a 16" bar for the mill saw as well, but it was somehow easy to find an OEM Husqvarna 16" .050" 3/8 bar for a large mount saw. That Archer 3/8lp comes with some very ugly cutters, which I found out the hard way when testing an 84dl loop on a 6x6 tamarack cant. The chain cuts probably 20% faster with less waste and it cleaned up very well with the grinder. Today I made a 60dl loop and cleaned it up along with the first 84dl loop. I
I just started milling with my 3/8 archer full skip semi chisel 30 degree top plate out of the box. It was not smooth... haven’t had a chance to put it back into use since I filed it to 10 degrees and hit all the rakers. Cant remember if this was the second or third cut. This was almost 5 months ago. image.jpg
Evan
 
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SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,848
Downeast Maine
I just started milling with my 3/8 archer full skip semi chisel 30 degree top plate out of the box. It was not smooth... haven’t had a chance to put it back into use since I filed it to 10 degrees and hit all the rakers. Cant remember if this was the second or third cut. This was almost 5 months ago. View attachment 278761
Evan
That's what my boards looked like after ripping the 6x6. I took the rakers down significantly on my 84dl loop and I want to compare that to the untouched rakers on the 60dl loop. Eventually I want to set up one of the loops in the Granberg style with every other cutter ground back to just a "scoring cutter." This is supposed to be faster and smoother.
 

SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,848
Downeast Maine
That's what our trees looked like when they came down, but our technique as a bit different. I'll probably do something like they did for any future trees near the house. The trees I cut weren't leaning quite that hard, so I did not have to tension before making the face cut. The electric winch is nice because it can brake in any position, but the skidding winch has a pawl every 6" or so of cable travel. My wife is also a bit overzealous with the winch and tends to pull the trees to the ground once she feels the tree start to go down. I may even show her that video.
 
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EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
727
SE North Carolina
That's what my boards looked like after ripping the 6x6. I took the rakers down significantly on my 84dl loop and I want to compare that to the untouched rakers on the 60dl loop. Eventually I want to set up one of the loops in the Granberg style with every other cutter ground back to just a "scoring cutter." This is supposed to be faster and smoother.
Hand file on my Carleton ripping chain. First cut. Much nicer.
 

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SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,848
Downeast Maine
Hand file on my Carleton ripping chain. First cut. Much nicer.
The Carlton chain works well, I prefer it over the Oregon ripping chain. It will probably be a few weeks until I get the mill going again, I have to prep a new site which is all stumps at the moment. I thought you were going to be using the Archer full skip. After a few more times filing I bet you will get even smoother than that.
 

EbS-P

Minister of Fire
Jan 19, 2019
727
SE North Carolina
The Carlton chain works well, I prefer it over the Oregon ripping chain. It will probably be a few weeks until I get the mill going again, I have to prep a new site which is all stumps at the moment. I thought you were going to be using the Archer full skip. After a few more times filing I bet you will get even smoother than that.
Have one loop of each for the 52” bar. 156dl takes to long to sharpen to only have one chain that you can only get three 11’ cuts out of.
 
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SpaceBus

Minister of Fire
Nov 18, 2018
5,848
Downeast Maine
Have one loop of each for the 52” bar. 156dl takes to long to sharpen to only have one chain that you can only get three 11’ cuts out of.
Have you thought about the Granberg Precision Grinder? I think it was $80 when I bought it and my sharpening times have gone down immensely, plus it puts a finer edge on the cutters for a better finish.
 

Caw

Minister of Fire
May 26, 2020
908
Massachusetts
So I don't have any real social media (I prefer it this way) but I do have a fake name Facebook account to use the marketplace. I have a standing alert for free wood posts within 15 miles and as im pulling into the driveway from errands to make dinner day a guy was giving away free bucked and split pine 30 mins away.

Told the wife sorry gotta go free wood...gotta go back in an hr thanks for doing dinner!! She was...thrilled ;). The guy had 50' x 4' high nicely stacked pine in front of his house. Apparantly a giant pine fell through his roof (saw the 15' hole can confirm) and he was sawing it up. He decided to split it with his splitter to get rid of it easier and he was right. I was there within 40 min of the post and there were 3 of us loading up trucks!

Anyways I ended up filling up my pallet/wire bin with some grade A fire pit wood for basically no effort. I was pretty tired from a long day but hey it was already split and I'm a wood addict. If it was just rounds I'd have passed. My wife and kids want firepits basically every day so this is a great score for me and my back.

Left is my bin of pine, middle is my uglies/big pieces of hardwood leftover from the winters processing for the firepit. Just the thought of using quality hardwood splits in the fire pit gives me anxiety so I keep the fire pit wood totally separate! Good stuff for the house, weird/soft stuff for smores!

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I did make a nice dinner afterwards to make up for it. Smoked salmon!

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