Kioti DK4710SE HST

SpaceBus · Mar 1, 2019

About a month and a half ago while sitting in the hospital from pushing myself too hard I decided that I didn't want to suffer anymore. I cashed out some investments I made a decade ago and today I picked up some real fun stuff.

The tractor is a 2019 Kioti DK4710SE HST. For now it will just have the blower and loader. Once everything thaws I will get a stump grinder so I can clear space to build equipment sheds for more attachments. My wife and I have some big plans for our 25 acres, so many attachments will arrive over time.

The stihl is a little MS150 TC for limbing and pruning. I wanted to pick up a Kombisystem, but they won't have more for a few weeks. The big saw is a 395XP for a logosol chainsaw mill. I doubt it will see much use aside from Milling. A 24" bar and some ripping chains will be mounted for mill duty.

Tomorrow my log splitter will arrive. It's a Brave 20 ton horizontal double split. I'm excited to see how it works, but it is a local favorite apparently. Over 25 have been sold here locally.

SpaceBus · Mar 1, 2019

@thewoodlands I finally took delivery!

Jan Pijpelink · Mar 1, 2019

SpaceBus said:
About a month and a half ago while sitting in the hospital from pushing myself too hard I decided that I didn't want to suffer anymore. I cashed out some investments I made a decade ago and today I picked up some real fun stuff.

The tractor is a 2019 Kioti DK4710SE HST. For now it will just have the blower and loader. Once everything thaws I will get a stump grinder so I can clear space to build equipment sheds for more attachments. My wife and I have some big plans for our 25 acres, so many attachments will arrive over time.

The stihl is a little MS150 TC for limbing and pruning. I wanted to pick up a Kombisystem, but they won't have more for a few weeks. The big saw is a 395XP for a logosol chainsaw mill. I doubt it will see much use aside from Milling. A 24" bar and some ripping chains will be mounted for mill duty.

Tomorrow my log splitter will arrive. It's a Brave 20 ton horizontal double split. I'm excited to see how it works, but it is a local favorite apparently. Over 25 have been sold here locally.

Nice! How much did you win in the lottery?

SpaceBus · Mar 1, 2019

Jan Pijpelink said:
Nice! How much did you win in the lottery?

Not quite, but I invested some money my grandmother left me when she died. My grandfather was a farmer in his day, so I found it fitting. Originally I saved this money for my retirement, but that happened sooner than I thought and I was medically retired from the army a few years ago.

thewoodlands · Mar 1, 2019

SpaceBus said:
About a month and a half ago while sitting in the hospital from pushing myself too hard I decided that I didn't want to suffer anymore. I cashed out some investments I made a decade ago and today I picked up some real fun stuff.

The tractor is a 2019 Kioti DK4710SE HST. For now it will just have the blower and loader. Once everything thaws I will get a stump grinder so I can clear space to build equipment sheds for more attachments. My wife and I have some big plans for our 25 acres, so many attachments will arrive over time.

The stihl is a little MS150 TC for limbing and pruning. I wanted to pick up a Kombisystem, but they won't have more for a few weeks. The big saw is a 395XP for a logosol chainsaw mill. I doubt it will see much use aside from Milling. A 24" bar and some ripping chains will be mounted for mill duty.

Tomorrow my log splitter will arrive. It's a Brave 20 ton horizontal double split. I'm excited to see how it works, but it is a local favorite apparently. Over 25 have been sold here locally.

I'm sure you have some jobs that you'll need done once the snow goes, have fun with it. Make sure you have a really good idea where the stumps are before heading into an area, I see a guy bust up the loader on the front end and then blame Mahindra.

It looks like a very nice tractor, it's a big investment so we should treat it that way.

thewoodlands · Mar 1, 2019

SpaceBus said:
Not quite, but I invested some money my grandmother left me when she died. My grandfather was a farmer in his day, so I found it fitting. Originally I saved this money for my retirement, but that happened sooner than I thought and I was medically retired from the army a few years ago.

Spacebus, thank you for your service.

thewoodlands · Mar 1, 2019

SpaceBus said:
@thewoodlands I finally took delivery!

I saw that you're getting into milling, it's a slow process and it can be hard on your saw but you can get some nice boards.

SpaceBus · Mar 1, 2019

thewoodlands said:
I'm sure you have some jobs that you'll need done once the snow goes, have fun with it. Make sure you have a really good idea where the stumps are before heading into an area, I see a guy bust up the loader on the front end and then blame Mahindra.

It looks like a very nice tractor, it's a big investment so we should treat it that way.

Yes, I plan to be very careful with it. Daylight was short today so I just pushed back some of the snow and tested out the blower. That thing is serious business, more like a snow destroyer. I'm looking forward to clearing some more usable space once the glaciers recede. Once I get some room I'll get the mill put together, cut some posts, and get some covered parking. I was reading about the lock n lube your posted about in your thread; sounds like a worthy investment. I've been reading about maintenance on the tractor tonight.

Would you suggest a tarp to cover the tractor until I build a carport for it? Once I get some covered work space built I plan on pulling permits for an enclosed pole barn, but that is years off.

SpaceBus · Mar 1, 2019

thewoodlands said:
I saw that you're getting into milling, it's a slow process and it can be hard on your saw but you can get some nice boards.

Yes, that's why I snagged that new 395XP at a nice discount. With a 24" bar it should stand up pretty well to milling. I'll definitely keep up on maintenance since it will be running wide open for hours.

thewoodlands · Mar 1, 2019

SpaceBus said:
Yes, I plan to be very careful with it. Daylight was short today so I just pushed back some of the snow and tested out the blower. That thing is serious business, more like a snow destroyer. I'm looking forward to clearing some more usable space once the glaciers recede. Once I get some room I'll get the mill put together, cut some posts, and get some covered parking. I was reading about the lock n lube your posted about in your thread; sounds like a worthy investment. I've been reading about maintenance on the tractor tonight.

Would you suggest a tarp to cover the tractor until I build a carport for it? Once I get some covered work space built I plan on pulling permits for an enclosed pole barn, but that is years off.

I did have a cover on ours when it was outside along with a battery maintainer with the inline heater plugged in.

I should've bought the Locknlube a few years back, it sure makes the greasing of the tractor easier.

thewoodlands · Mar 1, 2019

SpaceBus said:
Yes, that's why I snagged that new 395XP at a nice discount. With a 24" bar it should stand up pretty well to milling. I'll definitely keep up on maintenance since it will be running wide open for hours.

I run a 36 inch bar on a Stihl 660,with the Alaskan Mill we have you'll lose around 3 or 4 inches on the bar just from the setup.

I would get a better idea on how hot your saw might run before thinking about running it hard for a period of time.

SpaceBus · Mar 1, 2019

thewoodlands said:
I run a 36 inch bar on a Stihl 660,with the Alaskan Mill we have you'll lose around 3 or 4 inches on the bar just from the setup.

I would get a better idea on how hot your saw might run before thinking about running it hard for a period of time.

This was the saw recommended by Logosol for the F2 mill. The 395 is so heavy I don't plan on doing anything else with it. Eventually I'd like to get an Alaskan mill and the Granberg rail system, but I don't have any trees big enough for that. The logosol is meant for stuff up to 24", and that's mostly what we have here. I also plan on getting some hand tools and making wood shingles.

thewoodlands · Mar 1, 2019

SpaceBus said:
This was the saw recommended by Logosol for the F2 mill. The 395 is so heavy I don't plan on doing anything else with it. Eventually I'd like to get an Alaskan mill and the Granberg rail system, but I don't have any trees big enough for that. The logosol is meant for stuff up to 24", and that's mostly what we have here. I also plan on getting some hand tools and making wood shingles.

Before I had any ideas about milling, we saw that mill in action at the Woodsmen's Days in Tupper Lake, it looked like a very nice setup but I didn't have anyway of lifting the logs up that high.
http://www.tupperlake.com/events/woodsmens-days-tupper

SpaceBus · Mar 1, 2019

thewoodlands said:
Before I had any ideas about milling, we saw that mill in action at the Woodsmen's Days in Tupper Lake, it looked like a very nice setup but I didn't have anyway of lifting the logs up that high.
http://www.tupperlake.com/events/woodsmens-days-tupper

I plan on using my tractor and pallet forks. I also thought about ramps and cant hooks or a winch. My goal is to build structures/fences with the trees I clear. There's tons of dead wood full of bug holes for firewood. I don't like to cut down living trees, but we also plan on planting several trees as well.

After speaking to some folks around town and on here I'm thinking about starting a Christmas tree farm. Worst case scenario is more lumber for projects. Wreath making is huge here, so I could also make wreaths or sell the clippings from the Xmas trees to people that make wreaths. I can't do strenuous work and my immune system is shot so I can't work with people. This tractor will let me do stuff and not have to kill my body. Hopefully the tree farm idea can earn enough to pay for the tractor and supplement my medical retirement pension.

I've also considered getting certified for chimney sweeping, but I don't think my body will let me work enough to pay for the insurance. I've noticed there are a lot of local folks that don't have insurance or certifications for tree work, house repairs, etc. But I can't fathom the risk of damaging a customer's property without insurance. Especially guys that cut down trees, much less sweeping chimneys.

thewoodlands · Mar 1, 2019

SpaceBus said:
I plan on using my tractor and pallet forks. I also thought about ramps and cant hooks or a winch. My goal is to build structures/fences with the trees I clear. There's tons of dead wood full of bug holes for firewood. I don't like to cut down living trees, but we also plan on planting several trees as well.

After speaking to some folks around town and on here I'm thinking about starting a Christmas tree farm. Worst case scenario is more lumber for projects. Wreath making is huge here, so I could also make wreaths or sell the clippings from the Xmas trees to people that make wreaths. I can't do strenuous work and my immune system is shot so I can't work with people. This tractor will let me do stuff and not have to kill my body. Hopefully the tree farm idea can earn enough to pay for the tractor and supplement my medical retirement pension.

I've also considered getting certified for chimney sweeping, but I don't think my body will let me work enough to pay for the insurance. I've noticed there are a lot of local folks that don't have insurance or certifications for tree work, house repairs, etc. But I can't fathom the risk of damaging a customer's property without insurance. Especially guys that cut down trees, much less sweeping chimneys.

Yes, you better have insurance or you can lose everything if something bad happens after you worked on it.

After always having a real Christmas tree, we went with an artificial after throwing out one that starting losing its needles not long after we bought it.

SpaceBus · Mar 1, 2019

I'm drooling over root rake grapples right now. My dealer also has a really nice 3 pt winch I've got my eye on. It would be really nice for all of the widow makers on our land

Jags · Mar 2, 2019

That is a darn nice mid size tractor. I like the specs. You will like the shuttle shift for loader work, for sure. 45hp at about 3500# and a 2600# lift capacity can do a bunch of work. Keep your expectations realistic for this type of machine and you should have a dandy workhorse.

thewoodlands · Mar 2, 2019

SpaceBus said:
I'm drooling over root rake grapples right now. My dealer also has a really nice 3 pt winch I've got my eye on. It would be really nice for all of the widow makers on our land

I try and let mother nature take care of the widowmakers, you can't out run those when they cut loose. I have one over a secondary trail that I won't touch, I showed my wife so she doesn't use the trail. I'm hoping this last windstorm took care of it but if it's still up there, I'll put in a new trail that will take you to that same trail but not near the widowmaker.

SpaceBus · Mar 2, 2019

thewoodlands said:
I try and let mother nature take care of the widowmakers, you can't out run those when they cut loose. I have one over a secondary trail that I won't touch, I showed my wife so she doesn't use the trail. I'm hoping this last windstorm took care of it but if it's still up there, I'll put in a new trail that will take you to that same trail but not near the widowmaker.

That's why I want to handle them with the winch. We have a few over our power lines and the power company had been dragging their feet on this. I hate relying on other people

Bad LP · Mar 2, 2019

thewoodlands said:
I did have a cover on ours when it was outside along with a battery maintainer with the inline heater plugged in.

I should've bought the Locknlube a few years back, it sure makes the greasing of the tractor easier.

I only plug my tractor in to warm the block when I'm going to use it in the winter. Replacing them is a PITA and they don't run for free. The maintainer is a good item but I have yet to install one and the battery has been fine going on 6 years old. I will replace it this year and it will be a John Deere replacement as I've heard the other brands need the cases cut in order to fit properly. Both machines if not being used are kept in the garage.

The Lock and Lube is one of the best grease gun accessories ever invented. I use Lucas Red Sticky grease. It's cheap compared to replacing pins and bushings.

SpaceBus · Mar 2, 2019

This thing without even skipping a beat split probably one of the largest rounds I'll find on my property without any issues whatsoever. Honestly it splits everything I have right now just above idle. It splits on either really well. The slot in the beam is great for holding logs and the "wings" as I call them are a great work space. This thing is really easy to move around and quite light for a 20 ton splitter.

SpaceBus · Mar 2, 2019

Honestly I think @Ashful would like this splitter quite a bit.

thewoodlands · Mar 2, 2019

SpaceBus said:
This thing without even skipping a beat split probably one of the largest rounds I'll find on my property without any issues whatsoever. Honestly it splits everything I have right now just above idle. It splits on either really well. The slot in the beam is great for holding logs and the "wings" as I call them are a great work space. This thing is really easy to move around and quite light for a 20 ton splitter.

It looks like you had a nice day for splitting, I think our high was 35.

SpaceBus · Mar 2, 2019

thewoodlands said:
It looks like you had a nice day for splitting, I think our high was 35.

According to my weather station thing it hit 30 today. AccuWeather says 33. It was an awesome day for splitting and I don't feel like sleeping for a week. I had a bunch of stuff we got from a friend that has been sitting stacked in a field for several years, some of it just had to get split a little smaller. I split it way smaller so it will dry out a bit quicker by the stove.

SpaceBus · Mar 2, 2019

This will be my cover until I get something built when it warms up. I need some better bunjie cords, but this should work until this weather passes.

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