I have a condor probe in black pipe,and if I run the t-stat at 2.5 or lower after a few hrs. my condor says the stack is to cold. What am I doing wrong shouldn't I be able to run lower then that w/out a problem? The cat is active.
Ashford first burn ?
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I have 16' chimney with 2 45's I don't have a stove top gauge but the cat is well into the active range.
Yeah am 3' of Ultrablack through two 45*s then up 18' of ICC Excel.
Burning 16% pine & larch. I can see the cat reflecting off the floor.
As long as you are lit up I wouldn't worry about the probe Thermo.
In the real world 'Probably'
In the BK world 'Probably not'
Maybe a few veterans might pipe in.
Low stack temps are typical Blaze King. I don't have a probe, but I can hold my hand on the double wall pipe unless it is really cranking. If the cat is active and there isn't smoke pouring out of the pipe, I don't worry. I run my thermostat all the way closed in shoulder seasons. Think about all the heat you aren't wasting up the chimney.
A stove top thermo isn't going to tell you much on the jacketed Ashford. The firebox is under the cast iron top.
As with any new setup, check your chimney often, like once a month or so, until you get a feel for how you're doing.
Burn on.
A stove top thermo isn't going to tell you much on the jacketed Ashford. The firebox is under the cast iron top.
As with any new setup, check your chimney often, like once a month or so, until you get a feel for how you're doing.
Burn on.
C
The stove top temp & pipe temp will not give an accurate prediction, what does he have left?
Scott: How long are you in on this burn? Small / Med / full load?
The stove top temp & pipe temp will not give an accurate prediction, what does he have left?
Scott: How long are you in on this burn? Small / Med / full load?
Sorry fell asleep on you it was a full load started at 5pm last night its 8am 40
outside 78 inside t-stat at 2.5 still a lot of wood left in her. Cat is still active and stack probe at 300. Coming from a smoke dragon this thing blows my mind in my old fireplace this load would have been gone in 3 hrs.
outside 78 inside t-stat at 2.5 still a lot of wood left in her. Cat is still active and stack probe at 300. Coming from a smoke dragon this thing blows my mind in my old fireplace this load would have been gone in 3 hrs.Sorry fell asleep on you it was a full load started at 5pm last night its 8am 40
You ain't kidding. Mines still going from an 8pm, 3/4 load. Crazy.
Gonna let it go out.
I use to fall asleep on the sofa. Wake up and instantly think = Dam it the stoves probably gone out.
I'm thinking 24hr no problem its still cruising same temps and big chunks left. The skeptic in me always thought the talk of 24hr burns was an exaggeration but I have seen the light. I hope I am still this impressed when its below zero. I know I wont get this kind of burn time then and I'm ok with that.
I'm curious to see how the lower stack temps effect creosote build up on a cat-stove like the BK. I'd like to think that in theory the cat would be eating up most of the smoke so there wouldn't be much to stick to the chimney walls.
I have 24' of double wall and 10' is exposed. Come the dead of winter the temp at the top of the chimney would probably be barely above ambient if I were to run low on a BK. The skeptic in me thinks that I'd have a creosote problem with my chimneys setup. Even with good wood if I let my stack temp get below 550 I start building up soot fairly quick.
Or with BK's is it just a different story because of the cat?
I have 24' of double wall and 10' is exposed. Come the dead of winter the temp at the top of the chimney would probably be barely above ambient if I were to run low on a BK. The skeptic in me thinks that I'd have a creosote problem with my chimneys setup. Even with good wood if I let my stack temp get below 550 I start building up soot fairly quick.
Or with BK's is it just a different story because of the cat?
I only have 11' of class A and 5' off double wall, but I see only a couple cups of powdery stuff mid and end of season.
My sister's King is on a 26' flue, with about 9' above the roof. I got it burning in January the first winter, and got about the same out of it when I swept in June. We didn't sweep at all last winter, so I'm curious to see how it is. I took the rods and brush over last weekend, but didn't get to it. If they didn't do it this week, I'll sweep it this weekend. Debating on adding a key damper. Most of the time it is fine, but with a crazy west/north wind it blows thru a load pretty quick. Prolly should have a flue probe in that one.
My sister's King is on a 26' flue, with about 9' above the roof. I got it burning in January the first winter, and got about the same out of it when I swept in June. We didn't sweep at all last winter, so I'm curious to see how it is. I took the rods and brush over last weekend, but didn't get to it. If they didn't do it this week, I'll sweep it this weekend. Debating on adding a key damper. Most of the time it is fine, but with a crazy west/north wind it blows thru a load pretty quick. Prolly should have a flue probe in that one.
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This is what's left after 22.5hrs still active cat, leaving for a my daughters away volleyball game so I most likely will not be here to see the end of this load.
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I think I have commented on this previously, but here goes. Condar pipe thermometers are mostly for single wall pipe. If you place the magnetic type (without probe) on double wall pipe, you'll get a far different reading that the actual flue temp.
On low burns, we usually see flue temps in the 250-350F depending upon burn rate and fuel moisture content, draft etc.
I think everyone should inspect their chimney once a year minimum. I just swept mine after two years of burning. Of course I use NEILS so my experience is with 7% moisture fuel. I found less than 1/2 gallon in a total run of 16'.
I am pleased with their product. This year, I will be experimenting with cord wood at varying moisture levels all in advance of the EPA's NSPS revised test method for using cord wood. Doing a little beta testing makes for good understanding of the role moisture plays in emissions and cat temps.
Loading technique (both position of logs and diameter) can influence air flow across the glass. Draft and corresponding burn rate can also play a role in how clean glass will stay. Smaller diameters with more air passages seems to help as does drier fuel.
Burn on!
On average, it's the cleanest glass of any stove I've used. Most of my others would dirty up the glass most of the time unless I could run on high for a while. That's hard to do in the shoulder seasons.
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