SolarAndWood said:Akmechanic said:Not sure about the kool-aid comment.
No insult intended, that was from one BK burner to another. A lot of folks around here think we belong to a cult.
or we are all full of HOT air. >:-(
SolarAndWood said:Akmechanic said:Not sure about the kool-aid comment.
No insult intended, that was from one BK burner to another. A lot of folks around here think we belong to a cult.
RustyShackleford said:Sorry, I haven't waded through all 5 pages of this thread, but as someone who's heated with a catalytic stove for over 20 years (a Dutchwest and more recently a BlazeKing), I think it's absurd not to get one because of the "maintenance and cost" of the catalytic converter. No maintenance or cost is required, other than replacing it every 5-10 years; it's money well spent and a less than one hour job. In daily operation, it's opening the bypass to reload the stove and/or build a new fire, and closing it again once the fire is going good. With a BK, this is two lever activations every 12 hours or so on a slow burn, perhaps every 4 hours with a raging burn. Oh, and you need to remember to not put stupid stuff like pressure-treated or painted wood into the thing - which you shouldn't be doing anyhow, if you care about the air quality around your house and in the world.
By contrast, you want to talk about babysitting, with a non-cat secondary burn you have to make sure the secondary burn stuff gets to roughly double the temperature of a cat in order to get decent secondary combustion (1000 versus 500 degrees), and if you let the thing burn too low, the secondary combustion goes bye-bye and you just have a smoke-dragon with halved heat output. OK ... I will admit my characterization of the non-cat MAY be as biased and exaggerated as the characterization of the cat under which you are laboring, and I am prepared to be corrected ...
john_alaska said:I must admit the Cat BBK is a well built unit, but my gut feeling wants me to stick with the non-Cat PE
I would add that 21 of my 22.5 years of catalytic-stove experience was with a Dutchwest, which is a POS compared to the BK (and a POS in general, by all accounts). Yet even before I drank the BK kool-aid, I was pretty committed to another cat stove.SolarAndWood said:I was burned by a really crappy cat stove experience but couldn't be happier now.
Uh dude, no offense, but if I understand you correctly, this is nonsense. A cat does a lot more than "slows draft". Stove A and Stove B may both allow exactly the same amount of "heat to go up the flue", in the sense of a certain mass of gas times a certain temperature. But in one case, call it "Stove A", this hot gas may be almost entirely CO2 and H2O. In Stove B, it may contain a bunch of unburned hydrocarbons and such. Stove A is the one you want. Cat and non-cat can both behave like Stove A, but IMHO a non-cat is more likely to backslide to Stove B status.Hogwildz said:And a cat does nothing more to block heat from going up the flue any more than a baffle or tubes does.
So not sure what the theory or reasoning that a certain stove slows draft more than any other stove.
Yeah, really. Why not just go by the weight of wood you can stuff into the firebox ? The calculation is simpler and the results is more accurate.BrotherBart said:The big hole in the logic is that there is only about 85 cubic feet of wood in a cord. Air space doesn't burn worth a damn.
Akmechanic said:There ya go, a local testimonial and I'm not even attempting to bash other stoves, cuz I don't know no better.
-Kevin
Mcbride said:I actually think there are many good stoves on the market, and a buyer just needs to get the one that suites them best.
But in no way should anyone ever say a BK is not a good unit, or is a high maintenance piece of junk.
Yes a few junk stoves are for sale, but the BK is NOT one of them.
I know you will not be disappointed.john_alaska said:Ok boys, I give up… With one hour left before the store closed, and last chance to make the 2010 energy credit, I changed my mind and got the BKK…
I just need to get it into the basement and fire it up… I filed the old Earth Stove up for the last time before it goes into retirement…. Give me a week or so to get the thing going, and I’ll post a picture..
Thanks for all the advice; it was a difficult decision to make.
Congratulations, John from Alaska (are you related to John from Cinncinnati ?).john_alaska said:Ok boys, I give up… With one hour left before the store closed, and last chance to make the 2010 energy credit, I changed my mind and got the BKK…
I just need to get it into the basement and fire it up… I filled the old Earth Stove up for the last time before it goes into retirement…. Give me a week or so to get the thing going, and I’ll post a picture..
Thanks for all the advice; it was a difficult decision to make.
john_alaska said:Ok boys, I give up… With one hour left before the store closed, and last chance to make the 2010 energy credit, I changed my mind and got the BKK…
I filled the old Earth Stove up for the last time before it goes into retirement…
Give me a week or so to get the thing going, and I’ll post a picture..
Thanks for all the advice; it was a difficult decision to make.
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