Can anyone ID this insert? Just curious.. Lopi Revere? NOPE - UPDATED

[tickbitty]

Found this on my CL perusing. The listing and pics are not very good but I suppose that's why it has been up there a month with no takers.

(broken link removed to http://norfolk.craigslist.org/for/1383357882.html)

I know a lot of the inserts look alike but I wondered if anyone has an idea as to make or age. I doubt it's a diamond in the rough or anything but I wouldn't necessarily know. Have seen a lot worse on my local craigslist that they charge a lot more for though!
(and yes, I did email the guy to ask but you guys usually know more about these things than the seller does!)

Whoa, I think this is a Lopi, by the style of the door and the blowers. Anyone have a clue how old this thing might be or what it would take to rehab it if the blowers aren't working or something? It sure would be a steal if this is a lopi just in need of some stove black. I don't even like the shiny doors or anything, I prefer the black ones. This looks to be a lopi revere, perhaps. It might be trashed, but if not, that's a good deal!

 

[tickbitty]

oops

 

[tickbitty]

I think I got it figured out and I am pretty sure it's a Lopi Revere. Was a little concerned it might be the "answer" which isn't big enough for my house, but I looked and it's not, the space around the door is a different size. Must be the Revere, which (hopefully) would be just right for my 1430 sq foot house.
So I talked to the guy and he said that the blower fan doesn't work so he will sell it to me for $150. yay! This is an EPA stove, right? Non-cat, but has the secondary burn?
I am excited at the prospect of getting a nice stove so cheap. I know to look and be sure it's not all broken up and warped but I think for that price it's worth checking out and getting a few parts. I will need the blower fixed or replaced, a surround, some liner and a good install. Would it be smart to get an installer from a sweep company? I'm not a confident "do it myselfer" except for hunting for these things and I want to make sure I have a safe installation. Waiting for Drdoct to appear and weigh in for me on this one!

 

[mellow]

I do believe that is a smoke dragon, no secondary on it. It is an older non EPA model from the looks of it. That being said there are people that have taken the time to convert older stoves to secondary air, one of those being a lopi, do a search if you like working with metal it will be possible.

 

[madrone]

Basically the insert version of my Endeavor. Look at the bricks and the tubes, but at that price, it'd still be a good deal if you had to fix it up a bit. I think blowers are under $200, but I haven't priced them lately. It would take a lot to wreck one of these stoves. Look for the label on the back, which will tell you what it is, and also when it was made.

 

[fredarm]

Congratulations, looks like you got a good deal. Yes, I would have it professionally installed and have the sweep check the stove over to see if it needs anything else besides what you know about. As far as I know, it is an EPA stove. Drdoct could give you more info and tell you what he did to fix up his stove.

 

[ramonbow]

I have a Lopi Revere and the one in the photo looks exactly like mine based on the door and fan. But like you said, a lot of stove models look pretty similar. $150 is a great deal for this stove. A new blower will cost you somewhere around $250 but it may be worth it to take the existing one into your local electric motor shop to see if they can fix it.

 

[tickbitty]

Thanks everybody. Will let you know what happens after I see it and/or buy it later on!

Ramon, are you pretty happy with your Revere? Is it primary heat for you or supplemental?

 

[madrone]

I do believe that is a smoke dragon, no secondary on it. It is an older non EPA model from the looks of it. That being said there are people that have taken the time to convert older stoves to secondary air, one of those being a lopi, do a search if you like working with metal it will be possible.

If there are no tubes and/or the label shows it made before 1990-1992, then it would indeed be pre-EPA II. I'd pass on one of those, but it sounds like it's probably one of the EPA ones.

 

[Campfire]

Looks like my Revere.

 

[drdoct]

It looks like my Revere (sent you back a pm) but on closer inspection I'm wondering....

1. The flue looks bigger than 6" but could just be the picture.
2. The front facing picture doesn't look like there is a bypass on the top (which the revere has) but again it may just be the picture fooling us.


The easiest way is to look for the 3 tubes in the top of the firebox. There should be a little revere sign on the upper right on the front. EPA sticker on the back shroud. It's really hard to tell from the pictures but definitely worth it if it is a revere.

 

[atvdave]

Just one of many places that sale replacement parts for inserts and more.

http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/fireplace.htm

 

[tickbitty]

Thank you all for your help and for weighing in here! And it is..... (drum roll...) A CRUSHING disappointment! It's a Lopi alright, and in her day a fine one, but her day was like 20 yrs ago I think. She's not a smoke dragon but I think a precursor to the EPA stoves. (In doing a google search I see that somebody somewhere claimed it was an EPA stove, but it was made in 1984 or so, was there such a thing?)

Label on side said "Model X" and I did get the serial number, not that it really matters. It's a bit rusty outside and in. There's definitely some air-moving tubes and grates and whatnot in there, but not in very good shape, the main tube with the holes in it is cracked and the "ceiling" of the thing has insulation kinda torn and stuff. Basically I think that if this was an older model with the early features, but in good shape and good working order, I would have sprung for the $150, or if it were a Revere (or other current-ish model) in this kind of shape and needing work, but I knew I could get all the parts and stuff, I might go for it, but for the old mystery model X in not very good shape, I think the guy will be pretty lucky to get $150. Boo, I'm so bummed. Talk about counting my eggs before they are hatched! I was all ready to go and even had cash in hand! Sigh.

Will post pics if I get any that are OK. Had my flip cam with me but it's video that I would have to grab snaps from, and it was dark. But I will be interested to hear what you all think of the features on this thing and if they resemble anything familiar to you at all! Yeah, these pics are awful. Oh well.

Just inside the door is this grate thing in arch shape, tube (rusty and cracked) showing behind that

And oh the horror, insulation and junk hanging from roof!

Yuck.

 

[madrone]

Condolences. I agree that if it were in better shape it would probably be worth it. It has the right parts to be a solid, clean-burning stove, it's just worn out. Don't give up, your stove is out there somewhere!

 

[tickbitty]

You know, I was thinking, now that I finally have my new expen$ive (Lopi) stove, and have done all the research on it and have seen how helpful this website and the people on it continue to be, this old icky stove looks like a fixable project. Not that I am going to do it, but I am just sayin', that I bet I could have gotten it for a song and now that I see that 1) fixing woodstoves apparently isn't rocket science 2) Lopi supports all their stoves since 1982 with parts, supposedly 3) It's actually ON the epa certified stoves list, really! This exact model.

Those cracked rusty burn tubes could have been replaced I guess and everything else too!

It might have been worth the trouble! For someone who knows what they are doing, it might even have been fun! Hopefully the dude found a buyer, but I saw it on it's last day on Craigslist and it's never been put back up again. It even had the gold door, heck that thing alone would have been worth what he was asking, especially if it fit the newer stoves! and the blower worked too. (nobody can beat drdoct's deal on a Lopi though, nobody!)