Crawlspace dehumidification

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BigJ273

Minister of Fire
Feb 15, 2015
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Maryland
Well, after about 15 years of debate, and putting it off, I finally pulled the trigger on dehumidifiers in my crawl space. A few years ago I layed a new vapor barrier, which helped a lot. I was always of the opinion that a house needs to breathe. Well, in the summer, with the humid air mixing with the cool air under the house, that caused big problems in July aug and sept. Things stay pretty dry in the spring, fall, and winter months.

This year I cut some foam board and sealed the vents, and installed two dehumidifiers, one on each side (it’s separated by block with two small openings). They both drain to a sump pump. I went with the Alorair hdi65 model. They cost about $700 each. They each ran for about 7 days straight before getting it below 60 percent, and now it’s stabilized with them cycling on and off throughout the day. Man what a difference!!!! It is now dry as a bone under there. Now, I did not encapsulate completely, just sealed off the ground and the vents, which seems to have been quite sufficient. I plan to turn off the dehumidifiers in the fall and winter, and unblock the vents (they open and close automatic according to temp outside), to allow ventilation during the non humid months, when it naturally stays dry under there.

I’m amazed at how much of a difference this has made. I used to have wet insulation, wet joists, and puddles on my vapor barrier in the summer. Everything has completely dried up. I’m hoping the electric to run them is reasonable. They are both 120v. In total, with installing a gfci breaker in the box, and new outlet in the crawlspace, I have about $2k in the project. If the dehumidifiers hold up, it’s well worth the money in my opinion
 
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I need to do something similar.

I’m going to question why you would want open the vents up?

During the fall/winter you will be venting with Air that is colder than the crawl space. And probably at a high RH some of the time. Once you have a decent vapor barrier and the outside air is drier I don’t see the the dehumidifiers running that much.

At any rate two killawatt meters and one of these would make a great experiment to track the humidity and power usage.

Govee Hygrometer Thermometer, Wireless Thermometer, Mini Bluetooth Humidity Sensor with Notification Alert, Data Storage and Export, 262 Feet Connecting Range https://a.co/d/34PAAWO

I vote keep it sealed
 
I need to do something similar.

I’m going to question why you would want open the vents up?

During the fall/winter you will be venting with Air that is colder than the crawl space. And probably at a high RH some of the time. Once you have a decent vapor barrier and the outside air is drier I don’t see the the dehumidifiers running that much.

At any rate two killawatt meters and one of these would make a great experiment to track the humidity and power usage.

Govee Hygrometer Thermometer, Wireless Thermometer, Mini Bluetooth Humidity Sensor with Notification Alert, Data Storage and Export, 262 Feet Connecting Range https://a.co/d/34PAAWO

I vote keep it sealed
I guess that’s my old belief that a house needs to breathe. The air is also much drier and I’ve never had any moisture issues except for in the summer. So it will save on the electric, and the wear and tear in the equipment. I suppose we will see what happens this winter. That’s just my initial thought tho.
 
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Number one rule for preventing material degradation is moisture control. The reason we thought houses needed to breathe was we didn’t do a good enough job at controlling the moisture so…. We had to dry it out some how and hopefully soon enough that damage wasn’t done. I do think you will notice the extra electrical usage. But. The extra $20 a month during the humid times of year is just the cost of protecting your house. Think of it as cheap home insurance.

I just installed a whole house dehumidifier. It’s remarkable the difference in comfort in the house. At some point I will get a vapor barrier down and my vents sealed and ad a dedicated dehumidifier. Maybe this winter.
 
Number one rule for preventing material degradation is moisture control. The reason we thought houses needed to breathe was we didn’t do a good enough job at controlling the moisture so…. We had to dry it out some how and hopefully soon enough that damage wasn’t done. I do think you will notice the extra electrical usage. But. The extra $20 a month during the humid times of year is just the cost of protecting your house. Think of it as cheap home insurance.

I just installed a whole house dehumidifier. It’s remarkable the difference in comfort in the house. At some point I will get a vapor barrier down and my vents sealed and ad a dedicated dehumidifier. Maybe this winter.
I would be EXTREMELY happy with it only being $20 more. I was guessing somewhere around $50 more. That’s with two running, each drawing about 4 amps. But we’ll see what happens. Your right tho, that’s the cost of keeping it dry.
 
All you really needed under their is a fan to circulate the air, no air movement and that is when moisture starts forming. Almost sounds like your vents were installed so their is no cross circulation so no air movement. I used to do construction and with proper vent installation i have yet to see any of those places have a moisture issue.

I used to run a large dehumidifier in the winter 24/7 and it made a huge difference in the comfort of the house.. But now that i run my pellet stove for my primary heat i no longer need to. My electricity usage was barley noticeable using it.
 
I would be EXTREMELY happy with it only being $20 more. I was guessing somewhere around $50 more. That’s with two running, each drawing about 4 amps. But we’ll see what happens. Your right tho, that’s the cost of keeping it dry.
It might be closer to $50. I assumed with the 65 in the model hummer it was a 65 pint. It’s a 120 pint. It all depends on how sealed you are ie the run time.
 
All you really needed under their is a fan to circulate the air, no air movement and that is when moisture starts forming. Almost sounds like your vents were installed so their is no cross circulation so no air movement. I used to do construction and with proper vent installation i have yet to see any of those places have a moisture issue.

I used to run a large dehumidifier in the winter 24/7 and it made a huge difference in the comfort of the house.. But now that i run my pellet stove for my primary heat i no longer need to. My electricity usage was barley noticeable using it.
I have good cross vent. The problem is the super high humidity in the mid altlantic.
 
I have good cross vent. The problem is the super high humidity in the mid altlantic.
You should try the coastal south;) Dew points of 80 degrees or more are regular. That leads to condensation on the outside of our windows!! Rh of the crawl space I saw hit 94%!!
 
My crawlspace is damp and moldy despite having the vents and barriers open all the time. but there is no automatic feature. I was advised to install a dehumidifier in the crawlspace. Can anyone recommend the best crawl space dehumidifier for a 2000 square meter space?
If it was only that easy. Making the switch to conditioned crawl space requires encapsulation it’s not a small project. The big name brands are expensive. Santa Fe and Aprilaire are the two big names.
 
My crawlspace is damp and moldy despite having the vents and barriers open all the time. but there is no automatic feature. I was advised to install a dehumidifier in the crawlspace. Can anyone recommend the best crawl space dehumidifier for a 2000 square meter space?
I have the Santa fe compact 70 in my crawlspace. It's a well built machine and will dry the place up for sure. Just be aware that if you have a dirt floor or any kind of outside air infiltration, that dehumidifier will run constantly and rack up a huge electric bill. As EbS-P said it is very much worthwhile to try and minimize moisture coming into the space by putting down a moisture barrier on the ground and sealing off the foundation walls.
 
My crawlspace is damp and moldy despite having the vents and barriers open all the time. but there is no automatic feature. I was advised to install a dehumidifier in the crawlspace. Can anyone recommend the best crawl space dehumidifier for a 2000 square meter space?
Square meter or foot?
 
yeah I just re-read the size. 2000 sqm is an enormous crawlspace. What kind of building is this? You might need 3 or 4 dehumidifiers spaced throughout.
 
I second the above that dehumidification only makes sense if the influx of moisture is curtailed - i.e. encapsulation.
Decreasing the humidity in the space without hindering the flow of moisture into the space is simply going to increase the flow and make the dehumidifiers work harder because the flow is proportional to the difference in the equilibrium moisture content in the space and the soil underneath; decreasing that of the space makes the difference larger and the diffusion of moisture into the space larger. It'd be a never ending story of electricity bills.
 
New to me. Doesn’t mean they are not good. Price is 700-800
cheaper than a Santa Fe for the 90 pint unit.