Durable EPA certified stove without glass?

[John Ackerly]

An outdoor club asked me to help spec some stoves that they can buy for cabins. Apparently the groups using the cabins can break door glass within weeks or months, so they want stoves without glass - and really heavy duty, durable stoves. They said they'd love to buy a modern stove that most closely resembles an old Fisher stove Any suggestions? I figure someone must offer doors without glass as an option. Thanks.

 

[bholler]

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200479327_200479327
This is the olny solid door stove i have come across lately but at that price i would not expect it to be all that durable. I am sure there are others out there but not many solid door modern stoves

 

[claydogg84]

Without glass it's impossible to know for sure whether or not the secondaries are firing. Have they thought about picking up a used pre-EPA stove?

 

[mellow]

EPA Exempt - Little John from Buck comes to mind: (broken link removed to http://www.buckstove.com/little-john.html#.VPeCSfnF-ho)

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You could take the glass out of any stove and replace it with plate steel, however they might have to replace it after a few seasons.

 

[saskwoodburner]

Without glass it's impossible to know for sure whether or not the secondaries are firing. Have they thought about picking up a used pre-EPA stove?

i just asked myself how would that work?

 

[bholler]

i just asked myself how would that work?

You can do it just fine wit ha thermometer i agree it is easier if you can see it but very doable with out

 

[begreen]

Word: Damage deposit.

The Woodstock Classic has no glass, but I wouldn't used this for a cabin with lots of different users. They can avoid glass breakage by getting a cigar loader and supplying correct length wood. Maybe the Morso 2B with it's little window would work? Or the Jotul 602? How large are these cabins?

 

[saskwoodburner]

You can do it just fine wit ha thermometer i agree it is easier if you can see it but very doable with out

Just echoing the other members thoughts. I get my fires going better by watching the fire than the gauge.

 

[bholler]

Just echoing the other members thoughts. I get my fires going better by watching the fire than the gauge.

it is absolutely easier if you can see it yes

 

[rsw49]

If the users in these cabins are breaking the glass in a few weeks to months you have to wonder how efficiently they are going to operate a stove no matter what cues they have. Sounds like a recipe for overfires or clogged up chimneys.

 

[BlackGreyhounds]

Jotul F 118 CB Black Bear It has a little glass, but it is well protected???????????????

 

[John Ackerly]

Thanks for all the thoughts. Hadn't thought of the Woodstock Soapstone classic. Too bad there wasn't a way to retrofit it without cat.

john

 

[husky345 vermont resolute]

just one question. why wouldn't anyone want glass. who doesn't love the ambience

 

[velvetfoot]

Would any side loaders do the trick?

 

[Rut13]

Thanks for all the thoughts. Hadn't thought of the Woodstock Soapstone classic. Too bad there wasn't a way to retrofit it without cat.

john

There is a guy in eastern Ohio who has a Pre-Cat Woodstock Classic for sale for $400. I posted the link in the for sale section.

 

[begreen]

Thanks for all the thoughts. Hadn't thought of the Woodstock Soapstone classic. Too bad there wasn't a way to retrofit it without cat.

John, how large are these cabins?

 

[John Ackerly]

Not sure what size the cabin is, or how many there are yet. I don't think the guy liked my initial advice, which was to get something with glass, so you can see how the fire is doing, and get a certified stove - not an "airtight" one. So many people still think "airtight" is state of the art and means its efficient. (A few new models even advertise themselves as "airtight" even though they are not.) He is now getting advice of others and will check back when he finds a recommendation he likes, and then I may have chance to dissuade him or assure him.