Firebox question

[Firingthefireplace]

Hello everyone,

I have number of questions I can't find a definite answer for.

1. I have bought a Cemi Concept II insert which, when installed vents directly into the firebox since it has nowhere to connect a stovepipe. The bare fireplace firebox has mortar deteriorating from the previous homeowner burning fires directly in it. Is it worth my time to repair the worn down mortar before I install this insert in my fireplace?
2. I have a magnet thermometer that was left behind by the previous homeowner. If I stick it on the door of my insert once installed, will it actually be telling me anything useful? (Or is its best use on a stovepipe only?)

Thanks in advance,
Derek

 

[Jan Pijpelink]

Hello everyone,

I have number of questions I can't find a definite answer for.

1. I have bought a Cemi Concept II insert which, when installed vents directly into the firebox since it has nowhere to connect a stovepipe. The bare fireplace firebox has mortar deteriorating from the previous homeowner burning fires directly in it. Is it worth my time to repair the worn down mortar before I install this insert in my fireplace?
2. I have a magnet thermometer that was left behind by the previous homeowner. If I stick it on the door of my insert once installed, will it actually be telling me anything useful? (Or is its best use on a stovepipe only?)

Thanks in advance,
Derek

If that insert has a rectangular vent, you need to get a conversion kit to connect that to a 6 inch insulated liner that goes up all the way to the top of your chimney. Installing it as is, a slammer install, is not safe and not up to code. Have the chimney inspected and cleaned before you do anything else.

 

[bholler]

Hello everyone,

I have number of questions I can't find a definite answer for.

1. I have bought a Cemi Concept II insert which, when installed vents directly into the firebox since it has nowhere to connect a stovepipe. The bare fireplace firebox has mortar deteriorating from the previous homeowner burning fires directly in it. Is it worth my time to repair the worn down mortar before I install this insert in my fireplace?
2. I have a magnet thermometer that was left behind by the previous homeowner. If I stick it on the door of my insert once installed, will it actually be telling me anything useful? (Or is its best use on a stovepipe only?)

Thanks in advance,
Derek

You need to have a properly sized liner installed the way you are running your insert is unsafe

 

[begreen]

Moved to the classics forum. There are several Cemi threads here. Search on Cemi for more details.

 

[Firingthefireplace]

The flue is clay-lined and looks nearly immaculate, but the firebox is just bare brick. Does that make a difference?

 

[Jan Pijpelink]

The flue is clay-lined and looks nearly immaculate, but the firebox is just bare brick. Does that make a difference?

No, you still need a liner to meet code and to burn safely.

 

[bholler]

The flue is clay-lined and looks nearly immaculate, but the firebox is just bare brick. Does that make a difference?

No not at all. An insert now needs to be hooked to a liner. This was added to codes because it was found using inserts in the way you are posed a serious safety risk

 

[orb1talnz]

hi there first off when you have the fire installed it will have its own liner eather flexi linner or solid flu pipe you shold get it looked at by a trades person and the magnet thermostat will work on a fire door