Help on Green mountain 60
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seems like some of the stoves early on in the run had some issues with the baffle/primary air. other issues that have been raised have been about poor performance or smoke spillage related to insufficient draft. these stoves require relatively high draft to function properly. pulling straight from the manual....
"The Green Mountain 60 requires a draft between 0.06" and 0.1" WC."
"The recommended minimum chimney height is 14 feet (3 m) off the floor. The recommended maximum chimney height is 30 feet (9m).The Green Mountain 60 requires a draft between 0.08” and 0.15” water column.
Not really sure why they have 2 different specs in the manual. 🤷♂️ but its a reoccurring theme that the manuals have mistakes and reference the wrong stove.... so that doesn't build confidence. The shelburne which is basically the same stove with a cast iron exterior says "0.06" and 0.1" WC".
tabner
Feeling the Heat
I have a GM60. This will be my second winter. It has some Pros and Cons. If i were to do it again i'd get a BK, but that's not necessarily because this stove is bad, it's just i think a different model would work better in my situation now that I've learned more.
I think we need more info - can you describe your chimney/venting situation? Can you describe your goals/intentions with this stove? (i.e. 24/7 heating, ambience, power outages, etc)
I see you're in Kentucky - my assumption would be ambience, and the occasional power outage or cold snap? in which case i think the GM60 might be a good fit. Assuming your venting situation allows for adequate draft.
I think we need more info - can you describe your chimney/venting situation? Can you describe your goals/intentions with this stove? (i.e. 24/7 heating, ambience, power outages, etc)
I see you're in Kentucky - my assumption would be ambience, and the occasional power outage or cold snap? in which case i think the GM60 might be a good fit. Assuming your venting situation allows for adequate draft.
I’m actually still building my house and am completely new to wood heat so I’m just trying to get as much info as possible.
I plan to use the stove as my primary heat source
I talked to my rep and did decide to switch to the heritage. He told me it would be a better 24/7 stove than the green mountain
tabner
Feeling the Heat
Great! I believe they're very similar stoves in terms of the burn system, and firebox/door size and shape. The GM60 has the soapstone tucked inside in place of fire brick, whereas the Heritage is more of a full Soapstone body. Also looks like the firebox is about 10% bigger on the heritage, which is good.
Good luck! I'm sure these forums will be very helpful as you move forward.
Good luck! I'm sure these forums will be very helpful as you move forward.
If you're completely new to wood stoves you need to know that if you don't have dry wood (and the chance of you buying dry wood right now is slim to none regardless of what the guy selling the wood says) already you are not going to be happy with the stoves performance this winter.
As Tabner said the Hearthstone is a great stove (infact I think the best) for ambiance, supplemental cold snap heating, and power outages. I own a GM40 and love its looks, size, and tight clearances to combustibles. It is the centerpiece of my living room.
However I use mine as a primary heat source in New England and I wish it was more of a work horse. I need to reload it every 3-4 hours or so, It doesn't get a true overnight burn, and I find the catalyst to be more trouble than the minimal value it adds to this particular stove when burning 24/7. I end up servicing my catalyst at least every month.
Keep in mind our winters get cold and my stove is on the smaller end of what would work for my square footage so I need to run it pretty hard it to use it as a primary heat source. Also another key thing to consider is it will keep my 1500 sf 2 story house completely comfortable in sub freezing temps sustainably which is impressive for a stove of this size.
I have a 27 foot double wall insulated metal chimney that drafts like a beast.
However I use mine as a primary heat source in New England and I wish it was more of a work horse. I need to reload it every 3-4 hours or so, It doesn't get a true overnight burn, and I find the catalyst to be more trouble than the minimal value it adds to this particular stove when burning 24/7. I end up servicing my catalyst at least every month.
Keep in mind our winters get cold and my stove is on the smaller end of what would work for my square footage so I need to run it pretty hard it to use it as a primary heat source. Also another key thing to consider is it will keep my 1500 sf 2 story house completely comfortable in sub freezing temps sustainably which is impressive for a stove of this size.
I have a 27 foot double wall insulated metal chimney that drafts like a beast.
Yeah I’ve been thinking about that. Delivery date on the stove isn’t until mid January so I may have to use the electric heat when we first move in but my dad burns wood and always has a few year supply so I may borrow seasoned wood from him and replace it with what I’ve cut from my land.
I have 3 winters worth of wood stacked from clearing my land to build my house but I don’t plan to use it until next winter.
fvhowler
Feeling the Heat
Good luck RBcarter. I felt the same way when we built 5 years ago. Sitting in front of the wood stove is still my favorite part of our new house. Enjoy.
Yes I agree. I plan to install one to turn it down a bit on cold days
We bought and installed a new Green Mountain 60 soapstone with cat about 4 months ago. Been running fires for 2 months now and decided to return the stove for a refund. Way too many issues for me to deal with and super disappointed in this thing. Smoke blow back, hard to stay lit, VERY LITTLE HEAT, no radiant heat, lots of ash coming out the front. small fire box and low height inside. I am going back to an older used stove without a cat convertor. Trying to find a Jotul or other decent heat monster.
tabner
Feeling the Heat
That sounds exactly like my GM60 when I put wet wood in it.
The rest of the time it heats my home great.
The rest of the time it heats my home great.
Be careful with this advice! We’ve had a few hearthstones build up gas with the pipe damper shut and blow the top stones off! Heaves the entire top in the right circumstances. We’ve sold Hearthstone for almost as long as they’ve been in existence. It’s at the bottom of my list if I’m looking to buy. I actually prefer the green mountain over the soapstone models. It’s just not a rugged design.. If I wanted soapstone I’d go with a Woodstock hands down!
Webby, Based on your experience, What stoves do you find to be the least problematic and best designed?
cabinwarmer
Feeling the Heat
Webby, Green Mountain is a soapstone model. Stone is on the inside. You must be referring to outside stones getting blown off?
I’m very familiar. The OP originally purchased a GM60 but switched to a heritage.
He’s still building his house, so by the time it’s done the stove might be available. We are being told next year for almost stove except from Lopi.
This is my current issue and I believe the wood is still wet (just ordered the moisture meter to confirm). There’s definitely some 6 month old pine that got mixed in along with wood from the base of a large tree that was downed over a year ago but I only cut to length and split a week ago. Thought the Colorado summer would dry it but I hear it doesn’t truly dry until split.
My issues began this past week and I’ve been scouring this forum for solutions. I never knew exactly where the primary Airfeed holes are, and have been very frustrated to not find photos – only a description that its front and center. This morning after a thorough cleaning of the front lip, I noticed a hole that was clogged. Is that single hole on the front lip center the only hole for the primary air feed? I obviously know the secondary comes from the upper bar in the back, but thought I read elsewhere there are holes (plural) for the primary, and I got the impression they were along the floor in the center.
My stove has been great. Aside from this week and during Highwinds. My dealer recommended the normal wind cap, but just gave me a Highwind rotating win cap to try out. I had hoped to use my stove for 24/7 when I’m home and maybe should have gone a different route if others suggest. I do have to add logs every 3 hours to keep it going and it doesn’t go through the night.
tabner
Feeling the Heat
@rashomon what stove do you have, can you add it in your profile signature for future reference? You should be able to get more than 3 hours out of most stoves, certainly a GM60.
The primary air is that hole in the front center just below the lip, facing in, that would be called the “dog house” informally here. In addition I believe there is a primary air flow down the front door called the air wash, on most of these hearthstones.
The primary air is that hole in the front center just below the lip, facing in, that would be called the “dog house” informally here. In addition I believe there is a primary air flow down the front door called the air wash, on most of these hearthstones.
