Jotul #3 with draft wheel

[jpl1nh]

I'm looking for a stove for occaisional use in the basement, primarily in the coldest weather. It would be a new installation, new hearth and surround, new external (ugh) chimney, but external is the only way to go. Don't really want to spend too much on the stove with all the other cost involved and the relatively light use. This model is available locally on Craigslist for $300, (might get them lower). Questions are.. did this model have air wash? Was secondary burn utilized in this model? Can I install it since I'll need inspection or is it pre-EPA standard and unapprovable? I realize it may need a rebuild too, but I always have liked Jotuls and its a classic stove llok which I like as well.

 

[webbie]

No air wash
No official secondary burn, but burns very hot and relatively clean due to smaller firebox.
Pre-EPA
Good stove - smallish firebox, but UL approved, etc.
Probably will not need too many parts - if internal liners and baffle are in reasonable condition.....easy to replace parts and redo furnace cement without dis-assembling.

I would rate it as one of the best buys in used stoves - along with the the larger #8 with spin wheel.

 

[jpl1nh]

Thanks Web, I'll take a closer look at it then.

 

[jpl1nh]

Craig, I'm looking on Condor's site and they refer to the combustor assembly for the #3 draft wheel model. http://www.woodstovecombustors.com/jotul.html. I'm assuming this is correct, but always thought it was just the later models that were catalytic since they refer to internal catalysts. Can you explain how the catalyst is situated in the draft wheel models? Was it kind of a retrofit into the flue sytem or a real build in similar to current catalyst stoves?

 

[webbie]

That would be the model #3TDC, which was a cat. Personally, I did not like that stove - the cat was located at or near the flue collar so much of the efficiency gain was probably up the chimney.

Actually, according to Jotuls ID chart:
https://www.hearth.com/econtent/index.php/wiki/Jotul_Stoves_-_Identify_Older_Models/

the only one with a draft wheel is the first one - the cat would have a slider.

 

[blel]

Does anyone know the approx area a #3 w/ wheel will heat? Approx burn time? When did they stop making these?
Thanks

 

[gman1001]

I've got a 3TD - I've been told its old but I'm unsure how old.

It burns hot and heats my open design 1600sq ft home nicely.... My only gripes are:

1. Frequent reloading - we are talking very frequent... I rip through the wood.
2. smallish firebox - i have to split my wood pretty small


Aside from that, I love the stove, it looks great and keeps the house very toasty in the winter...

 

[webbie]

Pretty similar in specs to the current F3CB

 

[jpl1nh]

I always think it's a bit safer describing a stove's capabilities in BTU's rather than it's abilities to heat an huse or certtain size area. The number 3 is a relatively small heater, probably around 40,000 BTU. Will 40'000 BTU heat your house? Depends on size of house, sun exposure, amount of insulation, etc... Nicely made basic little stove though.

 

[jpl1nh]

I've got a 3TD - I've been told its old but I'm unsure how old.

It burns hot and heats my open design 1600sq ft home nicely.... My only gripes are:

1. Frequent reloading - we are talking very frequent... I rip through the wood.
2. smallish firebox - i have to split my wood pretty small


Aside from that, I love the stove, it looks great and keeps the house very toasty in the winter...

Do you use a catlytic combustor in your stove?

 

[gman1001]

Nope, I think that would be the 3TDC

Just a regular little stove - i get tons of secondary burn most of the time as well... WHen that baby reaches 400 degrees its almost to hot in the house, even on the coldest days...

I have an electricly heated house. Since using the stove I have never touched the E heat in any of the upstairs bedrooms. (3)

It's great...

 

[jpl1nh]

Nope, I think that would be the 3TDC

Just a regular little stove - i get tons of secondary burn most of the time as well... WHen that baby reaches 400 degrees its almost to hot in the house, even on the coldest days...

I have an electricly heated house. Since using the stove I have never touched the E heat in any of the upstairs bedrooms. (3)

It's great...

I'm chuckling because Condor, a catalytic combustor manufacturer, lists a combustor for the 3TD. However, I have yet to find anyone that has one that is set up that way. I think that there may have been a few TD's manufactured that way in the early stages of Jotul's brief journey into catalytic stoves. The combustor is on a wire frame that allows it to pivot which seems to indicate it's positioned at the flue opening. I have how ever yet to find any other evidence of the actual existance of this mythical stove. I was hoping you might have had one.

 

[CondoFurniture]

draft wheel shown here; this is from a stove given to me by a customer moving into assisted living. It fits a stove with two model numbers on the back plate: TD and 3TDC. No place in the stove for a cat to fit, it goes into the flue. I know the husband had a lot of creosote fires over the years, and that the stove was often damped down to try to burn through the night.

 

[g-hoppa]

Condo-- Did you get this stove up and burning yet? I just picked up something very similar-- the same, actually, except the flue collar is much bigger, not enameled, and the rotating combustor is built right into it. Same plaque on the back with two serial numbers, same date, only difference is the configuration of the cat in the flue collar. Seems like they were experimenting. The combustor is 6", but then the collar expands to fit a 7" connector. Looks like yours is 6", though? Anyway, I haven't installed mine yet-- wondering if you've had a chance to fire yours up.