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Just met up with member Village Idiot and off loaded a ton of Liberty Bricks he was good enough to haul up here for me when he picked up his ton down by Richmond in that big honkin truck of his. Been wanting to try them for a good while but just couldn't justify the trip for a ton.

Now the trial begins thanks to him.
 
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Curious to see how you like them, it has taken me about a month to get used to the bricks mixing them in with my wood. For me the best way has been to put the bricks on top of my wood, putting them underneath was squishing the bricks and they didn't burn as good.
 
That's awesome, let us know how they work in that NC30
 
Yep just keep those babies AWAY from the baffles & burn tubes... yowza!
Nothing like a slowly expanding hunk of sawdust burning uncontrollably under the burntube with the baffle board glowing yellow in spots.
 
Thanks BrotherBart. It was good to meet you and glad to help out with the bricks. It would have been a shame to only pickup half a truck load.

Now I just have to wait for the woodchucks to get home from school to unload my bricks. Oh, and for it to cool down enough to try them out.
 
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Wondering out loud how the Liberty Bricks compare to NEILS. Been wanting to try NEILS but ain't none to be found in my area.

Kudos to VI in helping a brother (bart) out....
 
I found these at a local wood processing place, I just happened to find them via a badly written criagslist ad, call around to some of the wood processors and maybe you will find some as well. Seems to be the new thing for these guys that make sawdust to buy the machinery to make the bricks as a side hustle.

[Hearth.com] Kudos to Member Village Idiot
 
Nice exchange here.:ZZZ
Comments on these "firebricks", compressed chips, etc..wanted.
Price/Btu compared to CSD wood.
Heat compared to ave. firewood.
How well they store ( if wet will they burn ?)
They do burn clean.
Thx.
 
I found these at a local wood processing place, I just happened to find them via a badly written criagslist ad, call around to some of the wood processors and maybe you will find some as well. Seems to be the new thing for these guys that make sawdust to buy the machinery to make the bricks as a side hustle.

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Used those years ago. I think the company did get sold to some other company so I'm not sure how similar yours are. In general they work but seemed to be made of coarser sawdust, seemed less compressed, fell apart easier than Liberty Bricks. The liberty bricks seemed very well made.
 
Interesting that on their website under the instructions they show them being stacked loosely as opposed to biobricks showing a mass of bricks with no air gaps.
 
I have four in the 30-NC at the moment. I lined four up one behind the other and opened the doghouse air back up. Letting that blow torch work its way through front to back. Working pretty well.
 
I have four in the 30-NC at the moment. I lined four up one behind the other and opened the doghouse air back up. Letting that blow torch work its way through front to back. Working pretty well.

What's yer outside temps now, BB? I'm burning both right now. 40F ish here, more on the minus side.

I've burned the bricks ... get ya through in a pinch. A good thing to add to the arsenal :)
 
Yeah we are at 40 and raining all night. The poop hits the prop this Monday.
 
Mighty neighborly of VillageIdiot to help out!
 
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Interested to hear how they burn... specs seem the same as (broken link removed to http://www.northidahoenergylogs.com/energylogs.php) and close to (broken link removed to http://www.homefirelogs.com/About-Our-Logs.html)
 
I've been talking up the lb for years. Can't be beat for $170/ton. Have been surprised that bb never made the hour trip to get some.
 
I've seen a few people online talking about ways to make compressed wood bricks, but they always wind up put off by the fact that you need thousands of pounds of compressive force to make them stick together without using some kind of binding additive.

It seems to me that some of the people on this forum probably have a decent sized hydraulic ram and lots of wood chips/sawdust.

Anyone here ever tried welding up a form and using their log splitter to compress a block of wood chips/dust?
 
Interested to hear how they burn... specs seem the same as (broken link removed to http://www.northidahoenergylogs.com/energylogs.php) and close to (broken link removed to http://www.homefirelogs.com/About-Our-Logs.html)
I have not seen any brick as dense as a NIEL. They don't even float in water.
 
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Nice exchange here.:ZZZ
Comments on these "firebricks", compressed chips, etc..wanted.
Price/Btu compared to CSD wood.
Heat compared to ave. firewood.
How well they store ( if wet will they burn ?)
They do burn clean.
Thx.
Some of my comments probably aren't worth much to you, Dumf, as my stove and cottage are smaller than most in the US and prices will be different here in Scotland - but here goes anyway....

The best (in terms of relationship between price and performance) I've tried so far are the ones made by companies who are processing their own wood waste using the Ruf briquetting system. These come in sealed packs of 12 here - and I would expect one pack to give me at least 12 hours of meaningful heat. If buying bulk, one pack works out at around £2.60 (approx $3.70). Over here, if you're buying decent firewood it would cost twice that to heat for the same period of time. I'd be interested to hear now the relative prices of briquettes and wood compare in the US.

In terms of how they behave, I would say the ruf briquettes I've used are equal to the best mixed hardwood (oak, ash, beech, poplar, cherry) I've had. Where they undoubtedly excel compared to wood is their uniformity; you always know exactly how the next load will behave; you'll know exactly how long a load will burn, when to reduce the air etc., because it will be exactly like the last load and the load before that. So once, you've got to know them in the context of your set up you can pretty much do it without thinking. Speaking Personally, I like that almost digital 'set and forgetness' when I need to get out in a hurry and don't have time to tinker with a new load of wood, but generally I prefer the more organic relationship I have with real wood.. Clearly there are plusses on both sides, depending on personal inclination and circumstances. Example - today is a lovely snowy day and I plan to go out in the hills for a good long walk: I don't know how long I'll be out, but it will be quite a few hours. I will use briquettes rather than wood in my load before leaving as the stove will be cruising within 10 minutes and I will be guaranteed enough coals for an easy reload when I get back at dusk... In my wee F3, that same scenario, but with wood, is likely to have me returning home to ashes.

Heat .... My stove is small, so your story will no doubt be different. I loose stack a max of four ruf briquettes at a time in my stove on cold days. If I put in any more it will over-fire....( I haven't tried the 'load way more briquettes, but tightly-packed' method BeGreen has described elsewhere on the forum, but I will one day!) I dial down the air by 50% right away as I have a strong draft and these things need a whisper of air to ignite, no more. My air is 100% shut down much, much sooner than wood. I get great billowing secondaries and 600 deg stove top for 60-90 mins on four briquettes. I won't reload for another four hours from a comfort POV, but I would feel confident that I could have glowing coals (but not meaningful heat) the next morning if I loaded four briquettes into the stove at 9pm.

Yes, they burn very clean, as they are <10%MC.

They store well for long periods IF KEPT DRY. If they get wet... or even damp, they will lose their compression and return to sawdust and become useless. They are very easy to store in a garage or basement, because they are uniformly sized and stack like....well...bricks. A winter's worth or briquettes would take up 1/4 the space of a winter's worth of splits. They come in a sealed polythene wrap. Theyre easy to handle for the same reason.. Just open one pkt at the time, as you use it. Watch out not to trail the inevitable little bits of saw dust through the house!!

Good briquettes are the most highly compressed ones, they are recognisable by the fact that they less likely to expand a great deal when they burn.

For those of us who are aesthetically minded - briquettes don't look so pretty as logs when sitting by the stove! :)
 
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I absolutely love these things. Used the advice in an old thread from member agartner. Loaded sixteen last night at nine o'clock. Burn settled in at 525 in 30 minutes. Went to bed at midnight and screwed up and overslept this morning and got up an to an outside temp of 19 degrees and a 69 degree house and 180 degree stove. I pushed the coals to the back and loaded twelve tightly packed in front of them and ten minutes later was off to the races again. Temp control is like having a gas stove. More heat, little more air. Less heat, little less air. No drama.

If these things were available closer the saws might be at the pawn shop.
 
I absolutely love these things. Used the advice in an old thread from member agartner. Loaded sixteen last night at nine o'clock. Burn settled in at 525 in 30 minutes. Went to bed at midnight and screwed up and overslept this morning and got up an to an outside temp of 19 degrees and a 69 degree house and 180 degree stove. I pushed the coals to the back and loaded twelve tightly packed in front of them and ten minutes later was off to the races again. Temp control is like having a gas stove. More heat, little more air. Less heat, little less air. No drama.

If these thing were available closer the saws might be at the pawn shop.
Right? I've been sayin'. Where in NoVa are you? A six pack could probably convince me to bring you a load next time I'm up that way (no idea when, but if you're not in a hurry...).
 
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