Lopi Stove 1750

[Greg123]

It's been along time since I have posted, we sold our house last year, and our new house didn't have a wood stove so we had to heat with propane this winter at the tune of 2.49 gal. With this new tax credit, I'm in the market to buy a new wood stove, and tell my propane supplier to go to hell at those prices, I'm looking at the Lopi republic 1750. We had a Napoleon 1100 in our old house which we loved, but the fire box was to small to achieve good over night burns, I don't want to make any moves until I find out more about this 30% tax credit. I have been watching Lopi's web site and they update some information today on the credit.

What I want to know is, does anyone have any comments good or bad on the Lopi Republic 1750?.

Thanks

 

[begreen]

Travis makes good solid product, but I haven't heard anything yet about the 1750. What size house will you be heating? FWIW, Travis feels that if the IRS accepts the HPBA standards, all of their stoves will pass the energy credit criteria, many by a wide margin.

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[Greg123]

The house is a colonial 2 story house, Approx 1450sqft We have a fairly large kitchen that we will be installing the Lopi in. I haven’t been able to find many comments on the 1750.

 

[begreen]

I think it's a fairly new (2006?) budget stove to compete with Englander, Drolet, PE Super27, Napoleon's etc. Sounds like it would be a reasonable fit for the house.

 

[Greg123]

If it is relatively new to the Lopi line up this would explain not seeing allot of comments on it.

Because of the style of our house and the location of where we want the stove, we will need an external Class A chimney. As much as I would like to keep most of the Class A within the envelope of the house it’s just not practical in our situation. When talking with the dealer they said we had two options on the external chimney one was going with the Stainless finish and the other galvanized finish external chimney other than the obvious looks and price is there any other differences?. The Galvanized finish was several hundred cheaper.

 

[yukiginger]

Don't have anything to offer on the 1750, except to say that Travis makes quality products.

Did you look at the Woodstock Fireview? Their current special may just have run out, but if you contacted them maybe they would let you in on it. A Fireview for ~$1500 is what I would go with.

MarkG

 

[yukiginger]

Greg, I don't know where you are in western NY. This is over near me, just south of Rochester (right off 90), and might be a good fit for your size home. If you are insulation is very good this might be all you would need.

Quadrafire 3100

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MarkG

 

[Greg123]

Mark, I am in WNY Wyoming County area. Nice looking used stove, and would probably look at it, if it wasn’t for this new tax credit. Can’t pass up free IRS money.

Cost of Lopi 1750 + Install + Chimney and parts - tax credit = free new Lopi 1750.

I think allot of people selling stoves on the used market will find it tough for the next two years because of this new tax credit.

 

[yukiginger]

Mark, I am in WNY Wyoming County area. Nice looking used stove, and would probably look at it, if it wasn’t for this new tax credit. Can’t pass up free IRS money.

Cost of Lopi 1750 + Install + Chimney and parts - tax credit = free new Lopi 1750.

I think allot of people selling stoves on the used market will find it tough for the next two years because of this new tax credit.

Greg, I didn't think the tax credit applied toward all the incidentals - just to the unit itself. So, 30% of the cost of the stove itself (if the unit qualifies). I could be wrong.

MarkG

 

[Greg123]

This is from Energy star

Question - Are installation costs covered by the tax credits?

Answer - Installation costs ARE COVERED for:

HVAC (Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning) systems
Biomass Stoves
Water Heaters (including solar)
Solar Panels
Geothermal Heat Pumps
Wind Energy Systems
Fuel Cells
The tax credit for HVAC, biomass stoves, and non-solar water heaters is 30% of the total cost (product + installation) up to $1,500. The law specifies installation costs include: "expenditures for labor costs properly allocable to the onsite preparation, assembly, or original installation of the property."

The tax credit for solar water heaters, solar panels, geothermal heat pumps, wind energy systems, and fuel cells is 30% of the total cost (product + installation), with no upper limit. The law specifies installation costs include: "labor costs properly allocable to the onsite preparation, assembly, or original installation of the property and for piping or wiring to interconnect such property to the home."

Installation costs are NOT covered by the tax credit for:

Windows
Doors
Insulation
Roofs
The tax credit for windows, doors, insulation and roofs is for 30% of the cost of materials, up to $1,500.

 

[yukiginger]

Wow, that's great! This should truly be a banner year for dealers and manufacturers. Let us know how it all goes, Greg.

MarkG

 

[DBoon]

I own a Lopi Answer - the smallest Lopi stove. It's very solid and a good heater. I'm very happy with it.

The Lopi Republic 1750 is just a stripped down Lopi Endeavor. It doesn't have the trim options, only comes in black, can't get the gold plated door, etc. I think that it might also be missing the bypass damper that the Endeavor has. This model doesn't scrimp on quality, just on the "marketing fluff". If you get comments on the Lopi Endeavor, you will be getting comments on the 1750.

 

[madrone]

I love my endeavor. Heating 1200 sqft 2 story. My only complaint is the gaudy brass trim and etched scene of flying ducks on the glass, so I'd take the 1750 in a heartbeat.

 

[Greg123]

Cool.. Thanks for all the info guys.

 

[pearsall]

I have had the 1750 for two seasons. It does not ahve the damper bypass like the endeavor and the door gaskets are a bit cheaper. I love the stove and burn it 24/7 from October thru April. I would suggest adding a blower if you really need to move the air around. My friend also has one and heats his 1600 sq ft house with that stove only, unless it falls below zero.

Good stove, although the Englander 30 is clearly a good choice as well. I'm a happy customer with my 1750.

 

[begreen]

Thanks for chiming in pearsall. If you get a chance, could you add a brief review to the stove ratings section? You will have the distinct honor of being the first entry for the 1750.

https://www.hearth.com/ratings/stoveratings.php

 

[Greg123]

pearsall , thank you for the info on the 1750. Please right a review on it, I will look forward to reading it.

 

[freonrick]

I have been researching the tax credit info and I found out that the tax credit is a non-refundable tax credit. Which means if you do not owe any taxes you do not get any back from the tax credit. Example, if you owe 1,000.00 and you have a full 1,500.00 tax credit available you can only use 1,000.00. So if you normally get money back and the end of the year the tax credit will do you no good. So basically you will want to make sure you owe at least the amount of your tax credit to get any benefit from it. That is the way I interpet it, if I am wrong let me know.

 

[Greg123]

I have been researching the tax credit info and I found out that the tax credit is a non-refundable tax credit. Which means if you do not owe any taxes you do not get any back from the tax credit. Example, if you owe 1,000.00 and you have a full 1,500.00 tax credit available you can only use 1,000.00. So if you normally get money back and the end of the year the tax credit will do you no good. So basically you will want to make sure you owe at least the amount of your tax credit to get any benefit from it. That is the way I interpet it, if I am wrong let me know.

You are correct. If you owe no taxes the credit does nothing for you.