Yes it is up to the homeowner to make a decision on taking the risk. And if he had explaind those risks i would not have an issue. But there was no mention of it in his op at all. People need info to make educated decisions and only one side was presented. By following your thread you obviously are concered with safety and doing it right. I urge you not to give to much weight to the I have been burning a stove for 40+ years so i know more than anyone else mentality. I have seen that mentality cause problems many times.
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My approach is the same as yours.
I also use my own common sense in assuming risks. "Red tape" government regulations are there for people who lack common sense. I have a 6 foot ladder with a warning on it not to stand on it any higher than 3 feet 11 inches. That warning is there for the people who lack the common sense to know whether or not it's safe to climb a ladder at all. I'm an electrical contractor who lives on ladders for 40 years now. So I use my own common sense to determine what's safe and what isn't. I keep the warning label on the ladder as a joke.
Have you noticed new electronic safety features on vehicles? There's automatic braking if you get too close to the vehicle in front of you. There are back up proximity warnings and cameras. And now there's even a device that warns you when you drift out of your lane while you're yakking on your smartphone or texting.
These features have evolved in order to compensate for unaware distracted self absorbed people with poor driving skills. The more of them there are, the worse drivers can be and yet still operate a vehicle.Wood stoves are just like any other product which involves chosen assumed risk by the owner. European Morso Squirrels have upper and lower air controls while the Squirrels imported into the US are the dumbed down government regulated version with one air control.
Morso mercifully put just one tiny tack weld on the lower control to immobilize it. In my opinion they did that to make it easy to make operable by owners who are willing to assume the risk of operating a stove with two air controls.. They could just as easily welded it all the way around to make it irreversable.
This thread has been interesting beyond the topic, in that it has revealed two different approaches to life. One approach depends on bureaucracies, regulations, mandates, warnings, restrictions, liabilities, penalties and indemnifications as compensations for people who lack common sense. While the other approach simply uses common sense itself.
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My Efel has a thermostatically controlled air intake which automatically closes as temperatures rise. However, it can be set to stay open regardless of temperature.
He was referring to blazekings which if everything is working properly and no one came along and modified things will protect themmselves from overfiring
His comment made no reference to any particular stove.
The Efel has a simple mechanical thermostat that can be set anywhere in a wide range between always closed regardless of temperature to always open regardless of temperature. Where it's set is up to the descretion of the owner.
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It is also a thread about people who think they know it all and are not willing to listen to those with much more experince in a given area. As an electrical contractor did you take tested and proven products and modify them? Did you follow safety regulations? If not i feel sorry for your customers.My approach is the same as yours.
I also use my own common sense in assuming risks. "Red tape" government regulations are there for people who lack common sense. I have a 6 foot ladder with a warning on it not to stand on it any higher than 3 feet 11 inches. That warning is there for the people who lack the common sense to know whether or not it's safe to climb a ladder at all. I'm an electrical contractor who lives on ladders for 40 years now. So I use my own common sense to determine what's safe and what isn't. I keep the warning label on the ladder as a joke.
Have you noticed new electronic safety features on vehicles? There's automatic braking if you get too close to the vehicle in front of you. There are back up proximity warnings and cameras. And now there's even a device that warns you when you drift out of your lane while you're yakking on your smartphone or texting.
Wood stoves are just like any other product which involves chosen assumed risk by the owner. European Morso Squirrels have upper and lower air controls while the Squirrels imported into the US are the dumbed down government regulated version with one air control.
Morso mercifully put just one tiny tack weld on the lower control to immobilize it. In my opinion they did that to make it easy to make operable by owners who are willing to assime the risk of operating a stove with two air controls.. They could just as easily welded it all the way around to make it irreversable.
This thread has been interesting beyond the topic, in that it has revealed two different approaches to life. One approach depends on bureaucracies, regulations, mandates, warnings, restrictions, liabilities, penalties and indemnifications as compensations for people who lack common sense. While the other approach uses common sense itself.
You seem to be missing the point that the european models are still dual fuel stoves and in that application you need that bottom air inlet. Here they are wood only that sir is common sense.
As far as the safety stuff on cars go everyone gets distracted at one point or another. And having safe guards in place is not a bad thing. Now is the added cost and complcation worth the benifit? I dont know that is for each person to decide. But saying they are only for bad drivers is rediculous. We have put backup cameras on all of our work trucks not because we couldt do it without them but because it makes thongs safer and easier.
No it didnt but because I know about the stoves on the market and how they work I knew what he was getting at. I thought some one with your vast experince in the feild would know that to.
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