Mt Vernon AE insert not heating the square footage as I would have thought (at all!!!!)

[Tonyray]

Edit (running on no sleep) 520lbs of pellets and nothing to do with propane.... Sorry for the long confusing post also here are the 2 brands of pellets I have tried

Wondeing if you have the Canadian Brand of Energex......
this is mine in PA.

 

[doghouse]

A co-worker of mine has the same stove. His complaints were the same as yours. What he did was make the dealer come out to his home and have the dealer walk him through the owners manual and show him how to make the stove throw heat. Lets just say that when he has his stove is cranked, the snow in my driveway melts.
Driveway: that's dooryard to you Yankees!

 

[pfmaloney]

the fan is on med reverse and the loft is about the same temp.

I get very good results from my ceiling fan in distributing the heat, but I run it on low.
I had read that if you use a ceiling fan in reverse in the winter, it should be at its lowest setting to minimize cooling the heated air.

Just a thought.

 

[Tonyray]

Correct... i have that fan setup at the top of the stairs to 2nd floor.

 

[pfmaloney]

on Medium speed?

 

[afd_82]

I would guess it burns about 40 lbs in 6 to 7 hours, also am I doing some thing wrong my pellets have to be pushed over to the left towards the auger it's like the angle is not great Enugu or not smooth

The curtain is a great idea but it does not even make it over to the loft (the heat)

Johnoutdoors it's like a jets engine You can't even look at it

Tony ray- yes they are from canada we are not too far from where they are made. Is the stuff from Canada better or worse?

Doghouse- they stove guy is coming today

My fan is on 2 in rev. I will turn it down, it just seemed so slow that's all

Thanks guys and I will post when the stove guy leaves

 

[Ezekiel_33]

Another few things you have to consider maybe: Is your home on a cement slab perhaps? If "yes", what is it covered with? The cement will take a huge amount of energy to initially get it up to snuff temperature wise. After that, it is all downhill and easy going.
My MT Vernon (pre-AE) is down in the basement. Last year we laid carpet and really cut down on the pellet usage too.

 

[afd_82]

It is not a slab full basment, tec is here now putting a 2013 blower he said the 14's are diffrent and now made in China not US any more? Also he had the computer hooked up to the thermostat.... I will keep you posted

 

[hyfire]

It is not a slab full basment, tec is here now putting a 2013 blower he said the 14's are diffrent and now made in China not US any more? Also he had the computer hooked up to the thermostat.... I will keep you posted

I would love to find out the cause..........China? ack

 

[hyfire]

Mr.AFD is taking a longtime to respond, maybe its something more serious than we all thought?

 

[afd_82]

We'll there really is no change it was on full tilt and 33 outside and can only get it up to 66 in here, the tec did not say much else other then try it let me know and after he was gone the stove shut down and said "vacuum sw error" so I hit retry and and it started up again. That's all I have for you so far....

 

[tjnamtiw]

I don't have an AE but usually when you have a vacuum switch error, you have a poor combustion air situation to go along with it, as in bad blower or clogged exhaust, bad door gasket, open dump valve, leaks around burn pot, something else bypassing the burn pot holes.

 

[Mt Bob]

describe your flu setup,as you replace gas fireplace.

 

[afd_82]

It comes out the stove a 3-5 inches 45degree elbow and then another 45 to go right outside if I remember correctly (the elbows were used to angle it to the preexisting hole from the gas fireplace. The pipe outside is 1 foot long and angled down. Is that what you were looking for?

 

[tjnamtiw]

Is there a screen on the end of the pipe that could be clogged?

 

[Mt Bob]

No vertical flue from the gas unit?

 

[hyfire]

How much vertical rise from the stove from those 45 bends? The tech did not bring a magnehelic gauge with him to check the draft??? Read what it says in blue...

 

[afd_82]

The rise is prob. About 1 foot or less from the 45, this is 3 feet out from the house and no we're near the roof line

 

[hyfire]

Question, could you not use the existing chimney and put a liner in it?

 

[afd_82]

I do not have a chimney it was a direct vent with a dog house off the house

 

[Mt Bob]

That is good info.Your stove on m5 should be able to almost cook hotdogs at the air coming out of the front.If not,you have stove problem.If it does,you have house heat leaks bad.

 

[chken]

I would guess it burns about 40 lbs in 6 to 7 hours, also am I doing some thing wrong my pellets have to be pushed over to the left towards the auger it's like the angle is not great Enugu or not smooth

This is odd, if you can burn a bag in 6 to 7 hours, that means you can burn almost 4 bags in a 24 hr period, which is about right for your stove, I believe. If it can burn that much, you should have plenty of heat, but you also said at the start of this thread that you burn 2 to 2.5 bags a day, and aren't getting much heat. If you can burn almost 4 bags a day, why are you burning only 2 to 2.5?

 

[hyfire]

He needs to re-evaluate his usage, with a stopwatch, however the igntion time will screw up the results a bit...Just for a test I sat in front of my stove tonight on high, its not same as yours but similar output.......and It was so had to get away from it after 1 minute....Please confirm your pellet usage...

 

[Ezekiel_33]

It is not a slab full basment, tec is here now putting a 2013 blower he said the 14's are diffrent and now made in China not US any more? Also he had the computer hooked up to the thermostat.... I will keep you posted

Is the stove in the basement or on the main floor?
If it is in the basement, and basement is unfinished you won't heat it.
If it is on the main floor, then also consider what type of flooring, walls, etc.
It takes a while to heat up the surrounding materials when you first fire it up.
I am heating a modular home made in 2000, with a walk-out basement in northern lower Michigan on 2 bags a day with an older MT Vernon(pre-AE).
My stove is in the basement, and I run it with a programmable thermostat.
Last year, after having carpet installed in basement, my pellet usage dropped dramatically. It takes a lot of convection energy to heat certain materials.

 

[afd_82]

Ok guys I'm back from camp and tonight I will start a bag count on manual high as soon as my stove is running...... Yes that's right it runs until auto cleaning starts up and it says "vacuum sw error". Ezekiel this is a modular also with a unfinished daylight but the stove is upstairs. The stove guy is coming back again.... Ugh