Good point, I'm used to a little different cutting. A lot of what I cut is dead Ash, usually blow downs, with most the limbs fallen off, so limbing for me is usually a few swipes with my smaller saw. When I'm bucking is when I need to be the most careful, our ground is wet and boggy, and full of other holes and debris. The other day I was 2/3 the way through a 18" Ash when my right foot went through the thin layer of ice I was unknowingly standing on, and sank about a foot. Wasn't pleasant.