Pleasant Hearth Made By HHT???

[rexrules]

Was in Lowes the other day and saw a cabinet style stove made by pleasant hearth that looked pretty well made. Did a little digging and it looks like it is made by HHT, maybe a Heatilator line for the box stores?

From the manual I found online: Manufactured for GHP at
1445 North Highway
Colville, WA 99114

Google that and it comes up as HHT.

 

[St_Earl]

hmmm. it does have the same three baffle plate system as the heatilator. and apparently a flat plate heat exchange set up.
but it lacks the quad burn pot.
i've only ever had my heatilator, but i know for a fact i love the burn pot in my stove.
the pull rod on the burn pot is another thing i wouldn't like to lose.

it does have what they describe as a dynamic mode (stove senses room temp.)
maybe that's better than the simple high low medium of the heatilator. i don't know.

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it does say it has a 5 year limited warranty. but i wonder if that covers electronics.
comes with an o.a.k.

i'd like to know if it has the auto reverse auger and if it's the flexible spring type or a solid auger.
i just know i have never had a jam with the heatilator.(flexible auger)

but really, aside from the burn pot, it does look very much the same as the heatilator.
the three models are even the same 35, 50 and cab
the convection blower is different. longer but smaller diameter squirrel cage.
likely an equivalent cfpm design.

i'd stay with my heatilator though. just because of the burn pot.
i'll be interested to see if someone here gets one and how they like it.

the manual for this kicks the heatilator manual's ass though LOL!
nice clear pictures for everything.

 

[smwilliamson]

I saw these too. I couldn't place it either. Perhaps a meld of heatilator and pelpro

 

[kinsmanstoves]

Hmmmm, HHT is set to dominate the hearth world so I would say this might be another push. My question is the burn pot on the Heatilator is bullet proof. Why mess with it. The combustion blower is also on the opposite side. The auger looks the same. The door is different.

Eric

 

[IHATEPROPANE]

Hmmmm, HHT is set to dominate the hearth world so I would say this might be another push. My question is the burn pot on the Heatilator is bullet proof. Why mess with it. The combustion blower is also on the opposite side. The auger looks the same. The door is different.

Eric

Maybe to differentiate the box stuff versus the shop stuff just enough to keep everyone happy??? I do like the round pots on Quads and others but Quad especially.....Everytime I walk into a stove shop the fire is roaring and the pots are clean.....same cannot be said for some of the others.

 

[kinsmanstoves]

PelPro was bought by HHT. HHT does make the unit but it is sold through someone else. Since this line is at Lowes there is a toll free number to call instead of dealer support. That will save the buyer money but also make repair and service a hurry up and wait ordeal other than a dealer stocking parts to take care of the customer. I am curious on the suggested retail price.

Eric

 

[imacman]

I saw one of these at the local Lowes about 3 weeks ago.

 

[kinsmanstoves]

I saw one of these at the local Lowes about 3 weeks ago.

Price?

 

[St_Earl]

i saw $1,695 on one site.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_217699-46631-PH50PSL_4294765281__?productId=3772645&Ns=p_product_avg_rating|1&pl=1&currentURL=?Ns=p_product_avg_rating|1&facetInfo=
for the large one (not the cab though)
menards has the cab style at $1,599

$1,099 for thesmall one (ps35 equivalent) at home depot.

 

[imacman]

Price?

Don't remember.....

 

[AbetterChimneynm]

I know HHT is selling more stoves in Hardware stores now. Here in new mexico a Ace Hardware is selling Harman and Quadra-fire stoves.

 

[imacman]

This the one I saw.....Pleasant hearth 2200 sq ft

http://www.lowes.com/pd_240301-46631-PH50CABPSL_0__?productId=4086614&Ntt=pellet+stove

 

[rexrules]

Tag on the CAB style one was $1599 in NJ.

With the Heatilator CAB50 only being slightly more expensive I don't think it's a good deal. Especially considering there is no ash drawer and it doesn't have the Quad pot in it. Can even get a refurb Englander 10-CPM or EPI for a couple hundred less. The unit does seem to be well built though.

 

[DexterDay]

Hmmmmm..... Is that "Dynamic" heating system? Similar to an ESP on a Harman?

Interesting.

 

[St_Earl]

i thought there was no ash drawer either (on the 50,000 btu non cab model) but i looked at the details on the lowes site, and ash drawer was listed as yes.

under "specifications" on this link
http://www.lowes.com/pd_217699-46631-PH50PSL_4294765281__?productId=3772645&Ns=p_product_avg_rating|1&pl=1&currentURL=?Ns=p_product_avg_rating|1&facetInfo=
(just assuming at this point they would have one on all three models if it is on one)
it would be good to know 100% for certain one way or the other.

the lack of the quad burn pot is still the deal breaker imo.
no ash drawer as well would be just ridiculous. if indeed they have actually made it that way.

love how it says both 2200 sq. foot and 1750 sq. foot coverage on the very same page .

omfg! sears has it for $3,258!
http://www.sears.com/pleasant-hearth-cabinet-style-50000-btu-s-pellet-stove/p-SPM6393835208P

 

[IHATEPROPANE]

The burnpot on these does nit have any holes on the bottom....does this seem odd?

 

[smwilliamson]

No ash drawer either....need to look at it again...is there one?

 

[St_Earl]

No ash drawer either....need to look at it again...is there one?

the lowes site says yes in the "specifications".
http://www.lowes.com/pd_217699-46631-PH50PSL_4294765281__?productId=3772645&Ns=p_product_avg_rating|1&pl=1&currentURL=?Ns=p_product_avg_rating|1&facetInfo=

but it's hard to see it on any photos. and it isn't specifically shown in the exploded diagram.

just btw for laughs - above i linked sears selling it for $3,258
essentially double msrp. shame on you, sears.

 

[kinsmanstoves]

I know HHT is selling more stoves in Hardware stores now. Here in new mexico a Ace Hardware is selling Harman and Quadra-fire stoves.

That would be the store owner selling them. Ace is an independent owned store. I supply pellets to a few of them.

Eric

 

[kinsmanstoves]

Hmmmmm..... Is that "Dynamic" heating system? Similar to an ESP on a Harman?

Interesting.

Negative.

Eric

 

[DexterDay]

Negative.

Eric

I was hoping it wasn't gonna be that smart

I still wanna come see that P-43 Just gotta sell another stove. Would you take a very nice and clean Classic Bay on trade? I know a guy who has a pretty awesome one.

 

[kinsmanstoves]

I was hoping it wasn't gonna be that smart

I still wanna come see that P-43 Just gotta sell another stove. Would you take a very nice and clean Classic Bay on trade? I know a guy who has a pretty awesome one.

We might be able to make something work. I am clear out of P-43 this year. They are moving a little better than I planned. I can order one, that is not a problem. I do have one burning here.

Eric

 

[St_Earl]

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/no-holes-in-bottom-of-burn-pot.118846/

thought i'd link this thread here as it discusses the somewhat odd method the pleasant hearth uses to "clear" the burn pot.

 

[SmokeyTheBear]

https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/no-holes-in-bottom-of-burn-pot.118846/

thought i'd link this thread here as it discusses the somewhat odd method the pleasant hearth uses to "clear" the burn pot.

Actually a number of stoves with holes in the bottom of their burn pots also use a purge cycle.

 

[St_Earl]

Actually a number of stoves with holes in the bottom of their burn pots also use a purge cycle.

yes. but the pleasant hearth doesn't have holes in the bottom.
thus the difficulties the users reference in that thread.
and the lack of a feed gate seems like a bad idea to me.
and people are adding their own home made feed gates after purchase.

it's like they took a heatilator and removed it's strongest features.
https://www.hearth.com/talk/threads/no-holes-in-bottom-of-burn-pot.118846/