Taco 0013 Starting to Fail

[trehugr]

To my disappointment, the primary pump on the EKO is making some new noises, it sounds as if its about to go south. I have 2 questions

1) Is the way I mounted the pump causing its early demise? (see photo)

2) would a Taco 1400-20 be a better pump for the constant running this pump does and will it bolt easily in place of the 0013 ?

 

[DaveBP]

I'm pretty sure they will last a lot longer if the motor/pump shaft is horizontal. The pros will know.

 

[Eric Johnson]

You've got it mounted wrong.

Doubt if it's cooked, but rotate it 90 degrees and see if it sounds any better.

The vertical orientation is hard on the bearings.

 

[slowzuki]

You're lucky you got any life at all with it installed like that!

 

[Eric Johnson]

I ran a 007 mounted like that (a cast iron circulator pumping DHW, BTW) for 3 or 4 years and it never failed or made noise. So all may not be lost. But the installation instructions clearly state that the can needs to be horizontal. At least the Grundfos instructions do.

 

[Medman]

I have the 1400-20 on my system. It is supposed to be more robust and easier to service than the cartridge based circulators which is why I bought it. Price was about the same.
The can needs to be horizontal, and the 1400-20 will fit on your existing flanges. You can rotate your flanges or get a circulator with the flanges rotated 90*.
See if you can rebuild the 0013. it would make a good backup for the future.

 

[shoeboxlen]

putting mexican food in a heating system! no wonder your having issues! just kidding been a long day.......

 

[Duetech]

The Taco 007 instructions say to go horizontal.

 

[Kipstr]

Sorry to see your flanges are the swivel kind. The boys at Cozy Heat sent me Bell & Gossett ball valves with flanges and I thought they are pretty slick. They would work real good in your case. Just loosen the nuts and turn 90 degrees.

Good luck

 

[trehugr]

I ran a 007 mounted like that (a cast iron circulator pumping DHW, BTW) for 3 or 4 years and it never failed or made noise. So all may not be lost. But the installation instructions clearly state that the can needs to be horizontal. At least the Grundfos instructions do.

Sometimes I wonder how I got this far in life.... Im bummin now

 

[trehugr]

Here is Tacos idea of mounting positions. As far as Im concerned, there is alot left to the imagination

 

[DaveBP]

Here is Tacos idea of mounting positions.

Looks to me like one of those IQ tests where you have to say why one group is different from another.

Except I'm not looking too bright right now.

Some of those on the right have their shafts horizontal. Maybe one of the pros can explain the rationale.

 

[atlarge54]

Here is Tacos idea of mounting positions.

Looks to me like one of those IQ tests where you have to say why one group is different from another.

Except I'm not looking too bright right now.

Some of those on the right have their shafts horizontal. Maybe one of the pros can explain the rationale.

I believe the idea is to keep the electrical connections high and dry.

 

[mysticfalcon]

and you dont want it pumping down. that way the bubbles will not purge out very well because the pump is trying to send them down but bubbles want to rise.

 

[Eric Johnson]

I'll admit--that's pretty confusing.

 

[Fred61]

When I moved in to my present home the first winter was hell. The oil boiler was directly under my bed in the basement. The sound of the burner was no problem but when the zone circulators came on it was like being inside on of my stereo speakers. The professionally installed circulators were on the output (hot) side and were mounted "motor down" and were supported by a threaded rod attached to the ceiling. I went down to the auto parts store and purchased a rubber exhaust pipe hanger and isolated the piping from the floor, all the while looking right past the real problem. The hanger helped and I did get some sleep.

It wasn't until I was installing my Eko circulator that the problem came to light. I rotated the circulators 90* on the oil boiler but I haven't run them since so I don't know if they suffered any permanent damage. My oil and wood systems are completely separate from one another. They are hooked up to baseboard and the Eko supplies the radiant. I didn't want to make it complicated because I have cancer ond when I'm gone my wife won't be burning wood.

 

[trehugr]

Ok, I turned the pump 90º and it seems to be Ok. Still bummed that I installed my most important pump wrong.

 

[Eric Johnson]

Been there & done that, Kev. I think we all have in one way or another.