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[littleuing]

Need to id a dieing tree.. I will be cutting up this dieing tree... Just not sure what it is... Wondering only because i like to know what im burning... Also have a second tree i think is honey locust but would like to confirm... So ill add pics of it as well... They are the top two

 

[Oldman47]

Leaves on first picture look like honey locust to me.

 

[littleuing]

Leaves on first picture look like honey locust to me.

Yea pics showed up wrong but i think the top and bottom were honey locust. That was my guess as well... And i have 3 of those dieing as well.... But the other 3 pics i was told was a nut tree... But not sure what kind..

 

[Oldman47]

The leaves on the second picture look like they come from the walnut family but that family includes hickory and pecan as someone pointed out in another thread.

 

[littleuing]

There is a black walnut next to it but i was told this was not a black walnut for sure.. My best guess was some type of hickory but it has not had any nuts on it in 5+ years

 

[CountryBoy19]

As said, one is a honey locust... the other is a bit tougher... bark looks like an Ash bark to me, and the peeling bark, with "track marks" in the cambium layer underneath indicate it could be infected by the dreaded Emerald Ash Borer... the tree is already dead, it just doesn't know it yet...

Easy way to tell if it's Ash is that Ash is the only tree I know of that has a compound leaf AND opposite leafing. Are the leaves/branches opposing or alternating?

 

[littleuing]

I can only see what you can i. The 2nd pic... I cant even see it that good looking at the tree... Most of the leaves are only at the top... The section of the tree the goes out to. The right is about 14 inchs i plan on taking that section within the week... When i do i can post more pics... Until then i really can only take a better pic of the bark not where it was peeling

 

[Ncountry]

Not sue about the one(honey locust?) but the other looks to be an ash tree.

 

[littleuing]

Not sue about the one(honey locust?) but the other looks to be an ash tree.

From what i can find its ash or hickory... the signs of ash bore lead me to ash but being told it was a nut tree leads me to hickory... Either way should make for a good bit of firewood I guess... Anything to look for to tell when cutting it down and splitting?

 

[porkchopexpress]

Honey locust for sure.
Could the other one be bitternut or mockernut hickory?

 

[littleuing]

Honey locust for sure.
Could the other one be bitternut or mockernut hickory?

From my. Searches online my top 3 trees i guess are bitternut... Pignut... Or ash... But i have no idea which one

 

[littleuing]

From my. Searches online my top 3 trees i guess are bitternut... Pignut... Or ash... But i have no idea which one

The branches and stuff are all over The place. They are not all oposite the other... So this must. Not be ash... Does. That mean it has to be some type of hickory?

 

[Corey]

Looks like ash and locust to me.

 

[Scooter422]

Looks like honey locust and mockernut.

 

[littleuing]

Looks like honey locust and mockernut.

Better pic of the bark

 

[Wood Duck]

Honey Locust and an Ash. I don't know what kind of Ash, but I can see the damage from the Emerald Ash Borer.

 

[CountryBoy19]

The branches and stuff are all over The place. They are not all oposite the other... So this must. Not be ash...

That is not a good indicator. Branches die out throughout the growth of the tree so they won't necessarily ALWAYS have an opposing branch. You must look on new growth to see if the leaves are located opposite one another on a branch...

 

[Applesister]

Honeylocust and Green Ash, they both like full sun and wet soils.
Hickories have that terminal leaflet thats just slightly bigger than the next two. And they are closer together. The leaves look like Green Ash leaves, its just a gut feeling.
If you cut the wood, the growth rings will be easier to count on Ash(and the wood is grainier). Hickory is finer. It is harder to count rings on the finer grain wood.
As far as bugs are concerned Hickory is as tormented as Ash is.

 

[littleuing]

Honeylocust and Green Ash, they both like full sun and wet soils.
Hickories have that terminal leaflet thats just slightly bigger than the next two. And they are closer together. The leaves look like Green Ash leaves, its just a gut feeling.
If you cut the wood, the growth rings will be easier to count on Ash(and the wood is grainier). Hickory is finer. It is harder to count rings on the finer grain wood.
As far as bugs are concerned Hickory is as tormented as Ash is.

Thanks.... Sounds like it is ash... Ill post pics once i cut it...

 

[littleuing]

I know this is older but here is some of what people above seems to agree was honey locust... And i fully agree... Will cut down the one people said was ash on the 1st... Will add pics of it then just to confirm and finish this off

 

[Applesister]

Yes, definitely show us some of the Ash pics. The truck pic looks like hickory but your split is closest to Honeylocust. We have the thorny ones here. Good firewood if you make it past the thorns.
The Ash had the upside down D shaped exit holes of the Emerald Ash borer, and furth up the tree looked like Yellow Bellied sap sucker marks. They killed a Mountain Ash in my yard, they girdled every major limb and cut sap flow to the whole crown of the tree.

 

[littleuing]

Yes, definitely show us some of the Ash pics. The truck pic looks like hickory but your split is closest to Honeylocust. We have the thorny ones here. Good firewood if you make it past the thorns.
The Ash had the upside down D shaped exit holes of the Emerald Ash borer, and furth up the tree looked like Yellow Bellied sap sucker marks. They killed a Mountain Ash in my yard, they girdled every major limb and cut sap flow to the whole crown of the tree.

The split was one off the truck... I am sure it is honey locust...... There are about 10 here... One has very small thorns and has the bean type pods on it... And another one has softball maybe bigger size clusters of thorns on it.... But the rest have no thorns or beans.

 

[Applesister]

Those bean pods may indicate they are in the Legume family or pea family and have a general association of having nitrogen fixing properties in their root system. (Soil enhancing capabilities)
I dont know about Kentucky coffee tree, its argued that some dont have this ability but its fun tree trivia just the same.
Animals usually like eating the pods.

 

[littleuing]

Finally cut up the ash tree here is the splits and almost half the wood.